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[13:20]<hzzzd>the police forces
[13:21]<hzzzd>are watching for us
[13:21]<cjmgrug>coughcoughtheclassicgodornogodcoughcough
[13:21]<sz2yzgrzz>Harry, ?
[13:21]<lcs>CodeRun: very intelignet remark
[13:21]<lcs>;p
[13:21]<kjr>Harry: yes, Byelorussia is supposed to be the last dictatorship in all of Europe
[13:21]<kjr>Harry: but we all know your good friend Putin is quite the dictator
[13:21]<hzzzd>4 Kog : 1) Belarus
[13:21]<kjr>Harry: I know what you White Russians call it
[13:21]<hzzzd>4 Kog : 2) Our president is the more dictator compare with putin
[13:22]<hzzzd>4 Kog : we no calling our counry - white russia
[13:22]<kjr>Harry: I have friends who "dissapeared"
[13:22]<hzzzd>some stupid - and low educated russians called the same way
[13:22]<wjzsvgg2jd>can somebody help me ?, i want to play on an l2j server but i just installed the lineage2 client
[13:22]<lcs>Kog: where are you from?
[13:22]<wjzsvgg2jd>is there anything more i should do ?
[13:22]<kjr>pks: Berkeley, CA
[13:22]<kjr>(USA)
[13:22]<wjzsvgg2jd>like creating accounts oid
[13:22]<hzzzd>4 worstenboy : no
[13:22]<sz2yzgrzz>worstenboy, find an appropriate chan
[13:23]<hzzzd>4 Kog : really?
[13:23]<kjr>worstenboy: so you asked in ##csharp...?
[13:23]<kjr>Harry: yes
[13:23]<wjzsvgg2jd>sorry
[13:23]<wjzsvgg2jd>wrong channel :$
[13:23]<sz2yzgrzz>Harry, you should start a revolt
[13:23]<hzzzd>4 Kog : hat is his ( her) name?
[13:23]<lcs>Kog: ok ;)
[13:23]<kjr>Harry: that doesn't concern you
[13:23]<jdvgdjgcgd>http://kevin.mesiab.com/wp-content/post-images/redesign.gif
[13:23]<hzzzd>4 sabiancra : i`m not interesting in politic( like 99%) of our people
[13:23]<kjr>Jivemonkey: looks like a book heh
[13:24]<sz2yzgrzz>ahh
[13:24]<hzzzd>4 Kog : u rude
[13:24]<sz2yzgrzz>no wonder why you have a dictator
[13:24]<kjr>Harry: I'm honest
[13:24]<kjr>Harry: there is a difference between rudeness and honesty
[13:24]<sz2yzgrzz>those who lack assertiveness will be abused
[13:24]<hzzzd>4 sabiancra : we voted for him in democratic votings - then he became made it
[13:24]<kjr>sabiancra: no one is being abused
[13:25]<jdvgdjgcgd>he's a tyrant
[13:25]<kjr>Jivemonkey: pretty much
[13:25]<sz2yzgrzz>so when will you oust him?
[13:26]<hzzzd>maybe - after 20 yers
[13:26]<lyzxvxzddnz>http://www.krugle.com/
[13:26]<hzzzd>maybe never
[13:26]<cjmgrug>what do you guys do when you lose motivation.. like suppose you're stuck with some tough problem in programming.. and even after all the googling and msdning, and asking on irc, due to the very nature of the problem... or perhaps you realize a funcdamental design flaww and you need to start from scratch...
[13:26]<hzzzd>it`s all depends from wishes of usa
[13:26]<hzzzd>)
[13:26]<jdvgdjgcgd>we start from scratch
[13:26]<sz2yzgrzz>CodeRun, that was like many questions in one
[13:27]<sz2yzgrzz>if there is a design flaw
[13:27]<lcs>CodeRun: sound like everyday problem in my project for bechelors diploma
[13:27]<sz2yzgrzz>i refactor if I can
[13:27]<sz2yzgrzz>and reimplement that functionality
[13:27]<hzzzd>we have been linig under different dictators for more then 250 yers - we have adoptation
[13:27]<jdvgdjgcgd>i try not to write shitty software to begin with
[13:27]<cjmgrug>heh
[13:27]<sz2yzgrzz>can I adopt you
[13:27]<sz2yzgrzz>i am 50% lithuanian
[13:27]<lcs>yea, refactoring of code rox
[13:28]<lcs>yesterday i spent 4 hours refactoring my project
[13:28]<cjmgrug>what exactly do you mean, when you say 'refactoring' ?
[13:28]<sz2yzgrzz>wo0t
[13:28]<kjr>Harry: they tell me that's a part of the live of Slavs
[13:28]<kjr>Harry: but I don't believe it
[13:28]<lcs>moving some part of code to other places, so that you could add new functionality
[13:28]<hzzzd>4 sabiancra : luthuanin and belarus` are practicaly the same
[13:28]<lcs>i think, thats all refactoring about
[13:28]<sz2yzgrzz>reducing coupling
[13:28]<kjr>CodeRun: refactoring is a generic name for modifying source
[13:28]<cjmgrug>oh
[13:29]<kjr>for the purpose of re-writing or re-designing
[13:29]<gxysvggz>Say I have a class Animal. I create an instance( Animal a;), then I assign a = new Animal(); . In what step the object gets a reference to the data ?
[13:29]<kjr>although, if you consider the atomicity - renaming a file is refactoring technically
[13:29]<sz2yzgrzz>generally means implementing a pattern where one was not used
[13:29]<kjr>sabiancra: incorrect
[13:29]<hzzzd>4 Kog : belarus- i should notice with the sorrow-is the min. way from europe to russia ( when you a going to attack) - and opposite)
[13:30]<kjr>Harry: who am I attacking?
[13:30]<sz2yzgrzz>Animal aClone = a;
[13:30]<sz2yzgrzz>Kog, refactoring is a loose terms
[13:30]<sz2yzgrzz>-s
[13:30]<sz2yzgrzz>that is what it means to me
[13:30]<hzzzd>4 Kog : not axactly you) but if you are in europe and want attack russia)
[13:30]<sz2yzgrzz>if I am refactoring its cause my design is too tightly coupled
[13:30]<kjr>Harry: I'm not in Europe, and I have no desire to attack Russia
[13:31]<kjr>sabiancra: yes, but that doesn't require design patterns
[13:31]<hzzzd>4 Kog : it is a pity
[13:31]<cjmgrug>what about handling the 'over complicating urge'.. wherein a simple project is complicated to such an extent for the reason of keeping it maintainable and scalable.
[13:31]<kjr>sabiancra: fallacious use of design patterns is destructive
[13:31]<cjmgrug>?
[13:31]<sz2yzgrzz>it should be required
[13:31]<kjr>Harry: many things are quite a pitty
[13:31]<kjr>design patterns should be required?
[13:31]<sz2yzgrzz>yes
[13:31]<kjr>sabiancra: always?
[13:31]<hzzzd>4 Kog : yes
[13:32]<sz2yzgrzz>no, sometimes you should reinvent the wheel just for the fun of it

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