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[19:22]<mjzymygo>ami-uhle: you can achieve calling the base class method instead of the one you intend, but that involves editing the CIL directly
[19:23]<rdy-uxfn>Moridin8: you mean microsoft could have achieved that so i can't override it?
[19:24]<drdyrrr_>you use you used override and not "new"
[19:25]<rdy-uxfn>no, i use override
[19:25]<drdyrrr_>sorry meant; As long as you use "override" and not "new" to define your overridden method. Using "new" would mean that a. you don't get a compiler error if the base isn't virtual and b. it runs the base's method if thats what the variable is defined as even though the object it contains is your subclass.
[19:26]<drdyrrr_>set a breakpoint where you expect it to be called and step through
[19:26]<azyfm>ami-uhle: could you post a small piece of code that reproduces the behavior you claim?
[19:28]<rdy-uxfn>well, i just override the RenderContents in an ASP.NET Menu Control
[19:29]<azyfm>and you use the "override" keyword?
[19:29]<rdy-uxfn>yes: protected override void RenderContents(HtmlTextWriter writer)
[19:29]<sdnffdxdlld>Moridin8: ever had to set the background color of a disabled combobox?
[19:29]<rdy-uxfn>and it doesn't get called
[19:29]<azyfm>then, no, your problem isn't possible :-P
[19:29]<rdy-uxfn>mine?
[19:29]<rdy-uxfn>well
[19:29]<azyfm>yours
[19:29]<rdy-uxfn>i set a breakpoint, it doesn't break
[19:30]<rdy-uxfn>i write something in the writer before i call the base method, that's not in the source code
[19:38]<drdyrrr_>j
[19:39]<drdyrrr_>i think your problem is that .net internally calls RenderContents(HtmlTextWriter, Boolean)
[19:39]<drdyrrr_>not RenderContents(HtmlTextWriter)
[19:40]<drdyrrr_>maybe not.
[19:41]<rdy-uxfn>hmmm
[19:41]<rdy-uxfn>hold on a sec
[19:42]<sdnffdxdlld>bbiab
[19:42]<drdyrrr_>ah yes it does.
[19:42]<drdyrrr_>the page mechanism calls Render() for each control.
[19:42]<rdy-uxfn>intellisense doesn't list that...
[19:42]<drdyrrr_>thats because it's private and not overridable.
[19:42]<azyfm>damieng_: Did you read the "ORM is Vietnam" blogpost?
[19:42]<rdy-uxfn>oh
[19:42]<drdyrrr_>i skimmed it before i went on holiday yeah
[19:42]<rdy-uxfn>damn
[19:44]<azyfm>hm, NDoc is dead
[19:44]<azyfm>A penny for the guy
[19:46]<drdyrrr_>yeah sandcastle has kicked it it in the teeth
[19:47]<azyfm>"Unfortunately, despite the almost ubiquitous use of NDoc, there has been no support for the project from the .Net developer community either financially or by development contributions. Since 1.3 was released, there have been the grand total of eleven donations to the project. In fact, were it not for Oleg Tkachenko’s kind donation of a MS MVP MSDN subscription, I would not even have a copy of VS2005 to work with!"
[19:47]<drdyrrr_>awww... "I didn't get renumeration for doing my hobby"
[19:48]<azyfm>"Now, I am not suggesting that this should have occurred, or that anyone owes me anything for the work I have done, rather I am trying to demonstrate that if the community values open-source projects then it should do *something* to support them. MS has for years acknowledged community contributions via the MVP program but there is absolutely no support for community projects.
[19:48]<azyfm>"
[19:49]<azyfm>Heh, eleven donations
[19:49]<azyfm>Ankh every only got one
[19:49]<azyfm>ever
[19:49]<azyfm>but then of course, I've never asked for donations, so...
[19:49]<pz2>Hi, I'm back on the book quest
[19:49]<drdyrrr_>with two pieces of my software i've put a price on them
[19:50]<pz2>I didn't like what the reviewers said about Core C# and .Net
[19:50]<drdyrrr_>one was price if you want the source for a delphi component set - got about 50 regs
[19:50]<svlnvnz>crap crap crap fuck fuck fuck
[19:50]<pz2>the O'Reilly book Programming .NET components looks good though, are the other O'Reilly .NET/C# books good?
[19:50]<drdyrrr_>the other was a bbs monitoring system whereby it monitored 2 nodes free of charge and $20 usd for up to 255
[19:51]<drdyrrr_>being that the bbs software it monitored was only free up to 2 nodes anyway...
[19:51]<svlnvnz>i'm not able to load mjpg video from http trough the urlreader filter!!!!!! argh argh argh
[19:51]<drdyrrr_>errr....
[19:51]<drdyrrr_>why should the data type care?
[19:51]<svlnvnz>plese someone can help? :(
[19:51]<drdyrrr_>http is http.
[19:51]<azyfm>bytes are bytes
[19:51]<drdyrrr_>it doesn't care less what it's transporting.
[19:52]<svlnvnz>urlreader handle the http protocol header and chunk etc
[19:52]<drdyrrr_>and what is urlreader?
[19:52]<svlnvnz>a directshow filter
[19:52]<svlnvnz>to sream over tcp http etc
[19:52]<svlnvnz>*stream
[19:53]<drdyrrr_>and it's written in .net ?
[19:53]<svlnvnz>no
[19:53]<svlnvnz>it's a C++ com object written by ms
[19:54]<drdyrrr_>so you're complaining in a c# channel that a com object doesn't do what you thought.
[19:54]<sdnffdxdlld>anyone know of a good rtf to html convertor?
[19:54]<svlnvnz>ehm i can't find info :( i've tried on: #winprog #c #c++ and non existent: #directshow #directx #ms
[19:55]<drdyrrr_>doubt you're going to have much success here either to be honest.
[19:55]<pz2>try efnet
[19:55]<svlnvnz>and also googled for hours :( and readed all the chm of dx9
[19:56]<pz2>freenode isn't really a great place to find ms programmers on the whole
[19:56]<svlnvnz>the directshow reference is very lacky of interesting info
[19:56]<svlnvnz>not like the CreateWindow (with tons of remarks)
[19:57]<svlnvnz>frb: yes i've tried #winprog on efnet
[19:57]<azyfm>try the directx forums on forums.msdn.com
[19:57]<pz2>sure, but you'll need to use MS Live Chat to use it
[19:57]<zgzzcygnv>um, no
[19:58]<zgzzcygnv>then it won't be IRC, will it?
[19:58]<svlnvnz>irc.microsoft.com, there is such server works?
[19:58]<pz2>it will be a modified version, that doesn't work with std clients
[19:58]<zgzzcygnv>nice FUD frb
[19:58]<zgzzcygnv>you should take that to slashdot
[19:58]<azyfm>I find no DNS for that address
[19:59]<pz2>AnarkiNet: do you know how many years it took before hotmail was usable in anything but IE?
[19:59]<pz2>I still can't login with my Live ID on ms websites with Safari
[19:59]<pz2>Windows Update still requires IE to give you updates
[20:00]<zgzzcygnv>um, are you claiming that they are using a modified version of http....?
[20:00]<zgzzcygnv>if so, you'd be a dumbass.
[20:00]<mracn>why would overriden keyboard events in a control not get fired?
[20:00]<pz2>I'm claiming that if they did make some kind of chat server, it would have something special on it that would require MS technology to use
[20:00]<zgzzcygnv>windows update doesnt work on other browsers because it requires activeX controls which afaik only IE uses
[20:00]<zgzzcygnv>and i'm saying thats a bunch of FUD
[20:00]<mracn>I've overridden OnKeyUp and OnKeyDown, and they used to work
[20:00]<mracn>now they don't seem to ever get called

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