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[10:42]<svlnvnz>pks: gmail is very good in spam detection
[10:42]<svlnvnz>hotmail sucks really hard
[10:43]<zgzzcygnv>have a versioning/repository that stores the CodeML version of the code, and transforms it to the requested language for each client
[10:43]<svlnvnz>pks: no spam: dodgeit.com :)
[10:43]<lcs>stpeter: http://www.cctv-information.co.uk/constant3/anpr.html
[10:44]<lcs>stpeter: do you have car plates croped from the image?
[10:45]<svlnvnz>not in all situations
[10:45]<lcs>a friend of mine has simmilar project for his diploma
[10:46]<svlnvnz>it's an interesting task :)
[10:46]<lcs>but instead of recognizing car plate number, he must recognize numbers on cargo containers
[10:46]<lcs>yes, it is
[10:46]<lcs>err. wrong, he does not have to do the recognision part, he has only to catch the cargo 'plate'
[10:47]<svlnvnz>matlab is very usefull
[10:47]<lcs>and preprocess it, so that OCR software could read the number
[10:47]<svlnvnz>but i need to do it in opencv
[10:47]<svlnvnz>yes as i have to do
[10:48]<svlnvnz>image->plate regions->perspective->ai ocr
[10:48]<lcs>mhm
[10:48]<svlnvnz>image->plate regions->perspective->characters->ai ocr
[10:49]<lyzxvxzddnz>salute
[10:52]<svlnvnz>i'm trying to use the square example
[10:52]<svlnvnz>from opencv to do the first step
[10:53]<drdjwa>Whats the best method for dynamically changing masterpages that have to be strongly typed?
[10:54]<sdnffdxdlld>AnarkiNet: what about when a language uses a feature or trick that cant be done in another language? do you have to write code that is very straight foreward?
[11:00]<zgzzcygnv>well
[11:00]<zgzzcygnv>for instance some languages don't even support classes
[11:02]<lyzxvxzddnz>enter cobol
[11:57]<-- svgvsdyzgjvr xrs>/dev/null")
[12:06]<rwyfcygs>Ah, coffee, bitter black nectar of the gods.
[12:08]<drdyrrr>Yuk
[12:08]<drdyrrr>Mmm tea :)
[12:11]<svlnvnz>wow Jack Daniels :)
[12:13]<drdyrrr>where?
[12:14]<kjr>I've got some Gentleman Jack on my counter
[12:14]<kjr>but 'tis for me
[12:25]<mjzymygo>morning
[12:25]<mjzymygo>(again)
[12:26]<vxznrmw>morning
[12:27]<mjzymygo>>.< just deleted a DB method I need by mistake...
[12:27]<mjzymygo>sod
[12:28]<rwyfcygs>Hope you version controlled it
[12:28]<mjzymygo>yeh
[12:28]<mjzymygo>just hassle
[12:29]<rwyfcygs>Which VCS are you using?
[12:29]<mjzymygo>thank god I only have another 8 working days of this...
[12:29]<mjzymygo>SourceSafe 2005
[12:29]<rwyfcygs>Any good? (deleted methods would not be fantastic hassle with my chosen TortoiseSVN
[12:30]<rwyfcygs>(just do a "diff" and copy the lines back with my merge tools)
[12:30]<mjzymygo>Its the same as VSS6 with fewer bugs and a merge model... but same quirks
[12:30]<drdyrrr>svn for the win \o/ Tortoise is okay but Ankh is the bomb.
[12:30]<mjzymygo>still need to learn svn
[12:30]<rwyfcygs>Never could get Ankh to work
[12:30]<mjzymygo>not had chance to play with it yet
[12:30]<rwyfcygs>Is it any more stable now?
[12:30]<drdyrrr>Use Tortoise to check the code out...
[12:30]<mjzymygo>awilkins: yes... and no
[12:31]<drdyrrr>then install ankh... and open the project in vs2005...
[12:31]<mjzymygo>bbiab...
[12:31]<rwyfcygs>Express editions won't take plugins anyway
[12:31]<drdyrrr>and ankh will detect that it's already under version control with tortoise and ask if you want to use it... hey presto.
[12:31]<drdyrrr>just download the latest development snapshot
[12:31]<rwyfcygs>I use the command line svn toolsas well.
[12:32]<rwyfcygs>Moridin8: You don't need to set up a server to play with SVN, you can just setup up a local-filesystem repository (TortoiseSVN even has a right-click "make this folder into a repo" option)
[12:32]<rwyfcygs>Just in case the whole "server" thing was putting you off :-)
[12:33]<rwyfcygs>I keep meaning to play with one of the 3G VCS tools like Monotone
[12:33]<rwyfcygs>Monotone is psycho-scary powerful, but it's a bit of a leap in terms of mindset.
[12:34]<rwyfcygs>svn + Trac is a fabulous combination though
[12:34]<rwyfcygs>Well worth getting your repo set up under Apache for Trac.
[12:34]<drdyrrr>yeah we use trac here :) Could do with time mamagement/estimation features tho
[12:35]<rwyfcygs>svn contributed to my glowing review this half.
[12:35]<rwyfcygs>Was called the "single greatest improvement in our process" by PHB
[12:36]<drdyrrr>yeah i can't remember how i lived without source control
[12:36]<drdyrrr>gives you the blanket to try new things and throw away old code
[12:36]<rwyfcygs>Sometimes ignoring protocol and just bloody well installing stuff is the best way to go ; this is why I find it imperative to gain root/Admin on all server boxes ASAP whenever taking a new job :-)
[12:36]<rwyfcygs>damieng: And VSS just doesn't give you that comfy blanket feeling
[12:37]<drdyrrr>no, it's more a game of russian roulette with code.
[12:37]<drdyrrr>team services might be better but the licencing is somewhat... prohibitive.
[12:37]<rwyfcygs>My old job and their huge VB3 codebase moved onto VSS from "leaving old code in as comments", and couldn't get rid of the "old code" mentality, largely I suspect because VSS is a big pile of crap.
[12:38]<drdyrrr>i use svn to backup all my files now anyway, photos, documents etc. across the pc and the mac. so team services doesn't work for me.
[12:38]<rwyfcygs>EVen my PHB keeps a SVN repo for his stuff at home now :-)
[12:38]<drdyrrr>distributed backups :)
[12:38]<rwyfcygs>Monotone would be freakishly good for that once you figure it out.
[12:39]<rwyfcygs>The only downer with using VCS for file backups is binary files like .DOC though
[12:41]<rwyfcygs>Yeah, I keep meaning to implement some backup for the wife.
[12:41]<rwyfcygs>At present she just keeps all her files on a 2GB flash drive
[12:41]<rwyfcygs>IN case her HD goes POP
[12:41]<rwyfcygs>(like it did last year)
[12:43]<kjr>awilkins: I totally misread you... I thought you said you needed to backup your actual wife
[12:43]<rwyfcygs>Hehehe.
[12:44]<rwyfcygs>Naah, if this one gets erased I'd probably rewrite her from scratch.
[12:44]<kjr>weird science whatnow?
[12:44]<rwyfcygs>Maybe a Claudia Black / Alison Hannigan hybrid
[12:45]<rwyfcygs>With a touch of Alicia Witt
[12:48]<rwyfcygs>Passion, cuddliness, and intelligence.
[12:50]<drdyrrr>i with you on claudia black (so to speak) but the others i can do without ;-)
[12:59]<kjr>awilkins: rumor has it Allison Hannigan is a pornstar
[13:00]<rwyfcygs>What, in the Paris Hilton sense?
[13:00]<kjr>awilkins: not quite, in this sense "professional" would count
[13:01]<rwyfcygs>Recent, or "before they were famous"?

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