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[00:00]<mjzymygo>it's managed
[00:00]<pfrcnnus>ah, i see
[00:00]<mjzymygo>Odegaard: welcome to the fun of XPath... ;)
[00:00]<pfrcnnus>excuse my stupid question, but what is XPath?
[00:00]<mjzymygo>Odegaard: my suggestion is to find an XPath interpreter aid on the web. but I don't have one to name off the top of my head
[00:01]<pzggjgg1000>It has an X! It deals with XML!
[00:01]<omnzzzzm>Moribin8: Thanx. Have already been raped by them several times the last couple of months when working with Umbraco :-)
[00:01]<mjzymygo>Odegaard: have you tried XMLSpy? their Home edition is free
[00:02]<vynvyv>that program seemed retarded in the way it wouldn't open up xml when i double clicked on it
[00:02]<omnzzzzm>Actually it should be so simple that getting an app is ridiculous (but I'll give it a go anyway). My query is just "/Service" :-/
[00:02]<cjmgrug>1 X refers XML, 2 XX is like an IRC emoticon, and 3 XXX is undocumented :p
[00:02]<vynvyv>it would startup the program empty
[00:02]<mjzymygo>http://www.altova.com/download/xmlspy/free_xml_editor.html
[00:02]<pfrcnnus>You guys have been a big help. Thank you.
[00:02]<pzggjgg1000>When doing webservices, how would I get a Request object?
[00:02]<omnzzzzm>thx
[00:03]<pfrcnnus>time to go home :)
[00:03]<kjr>I swear that one of these days I'm going to go blow Google the fuck up
[00:03]<mjzymygo>flakzeus: np
[00:03]<pfrcnnus>have a good evening folks.
[00:03]<mjzymygo>kog... wtf? NUKE IT NOW!!
[00:03]<mjzymygo>;)
[00:03]<mjzymygo>Odegaard: np
[00:03]<kjr>Moridin8: I would if I could
[00:03]<cjmgrug>why Kog, whats happened?
[00:03]<kjr>Moridin8: and now everyone knows why I've been saying for about a year that their programmers are fucking stupid
[00:03]<omnzzzzm>anyone who have tried out CodePlex and the source control plugin? It's simply GREAT! (well compared to gotdotnet anyway)
[00:03]<kjr>their software is mostly very low grade quality
[00:03]<mjzymygo>i'd help but i'm knocking up a URL simple Re-write module
[00:04]<kjr>Moridin8: you can't help, only their support can
[00:04]<pzggjgg1000>Kog: But it's free and pretty.
[00:04]<mjzymygo>uhn... =(
[00:04]<kjr>Moridin8: their fucking Base bulk uploads are broken and I just wasted my weekend updating our tech to spit out correct feeds
[00:04]<kjr>at computation time of 90 minutes per feed
[00:05]<kjr>I had to compute, recompute, compute against the original, verify
[00:05]<kjr>then wait for their shit to work... except it doesn't
[00:05]<kjr>and they haven't responded to my emails from last week
[00:05]<kjr>Moridin8: first they told me I had 12,000 acceptable products, but I could only use 10,000 - even though the limit was 100,000
[00:05]<kjr>then they told me that the size limit wasn't actually 20mb like they said, but 10
[00:05]<kjr>and to mail them for an increase
[00:05]<kjr>(which, I did)
[00:05]<kjr>but now their FTP isn't reading my 5mb files
[00:06]<kjr>then they marked my feed disapproved, and refuse to read any more uploads
[00:06]<kjr>and it's disapproved because they didn't take my fixed feed
[00:06]<kjr>and they didn't take my fixed feed... I have no idea why actually
[00:07]<pzggjgg1000>I wonder if you can use google mail space for google base.
[00:07]<pzggjgg1000>Does no one else here do webservices? Or ever want to get a Request object?
[00:08]<cjmgrug>freeone3000 i suspect the guy at google are doing it internally ;) how else can each account get 2700 MB+ ?
[00:08]<cjmgrug>guys*
[00:08]<pzggjgg1000>They have big drives.
[00:08]<pzggjgg1000>Seriously, who would USE two gigabytes of mail?
[00:08]<pzggjgg1000>I'm using like 50MB deleting nothing for like a year now.
[00:08]<vynvyv>eventually i would
[00:09]<vynvyv>i don't delete shit
[00:09]<kjr>I don't know, but their quality of service is next to 0
[00:09]<pzggjgg1000>Course, all I get is personal correspondances and the regular number of mailing lists.
[00:10]<kjr>and of course then there's Google Talk, another horribly written POS
[00:10]<cjmgrug>the human mind is designed that way, if you give him 2 MB of webmail space, he'll complain for 200 MB.. but if you give him 2700+ MB of webmailspace, he'll hardly use it ;)
[00:10]<kjr>and Google Desktop, responsible for more security vulns than any other software, ever
[00:10]<vynvyv>Kog: but it's still cool :P
[00:10]<dyguw>Can you give me a sample usage for an XML Web Service?
[00:10]<pzggjgg1000>Teh searching thing?
[00:10]<kjr>no, it's not cool to write shitty software that isn't novel
[00:10]<kjr>freeone3000: yes
[00:11]<cjmgrug>i thought Google Talk had a good response from the users, Kog ?
[00:11]<kjr>CodeRun: you ever run it?
[00:11]<vynvyv>i don't care if it's novel or not, i just want it to be the best
[00:11]<vynvyv>and easy to use
[00:11]<pzggjgg1000>minux: You have an app that needs to connect to a server. It doesn't need to parse a website, you have control over the server. However, it needs to get something from the server that from some reason it can't get there.
[00:11]<vynvyv>and it's definately the latter
[00:11]<kjr>CodeRun: it looks like it took 15 minutes to write, and really doesn't do anything that isn't already done
[00:11]<kjr>tieTYT: what, Google Desktop?
[00:11]<vynvyv>yes
[00:11]<cjmgrug>thats true, its another VOIP client.
[00:11]<kjr>tieTYT: you know that certain security firms classify Desktop as a trojan?
[00:12]<vynvyv>i didn't know that specifically
[00:12]<kjr>tieTYT: because that's what it ends up being
[00:12]<vynvyv>i know that it can send data over the internet about your hd
[00:12]<dyguw>freeone3000: So basically I could implement the server for my company management software (for in-house use only) as an XML webservice?
[00:12]<pzggjgg1000>"Keeps track of personal information" "Searches files in the hard drive"
[00:12]<kjr>it also ends up executing things it shouldn't
[00:12]<vynvyv>i mean about the contents of your hd
[00:12]<pzggjgg1000>minux: Quite possibly so.
[00:12]<dyguw>I see.
[00:12]<kjr>when the WMF vuln came out, Google Desktop blundered into it head first heh
[00:12]<pzggjgg1000>minux: Whether you should do that is another thing.
[00:12]<dyguw>freeone3000: Sure :)
[00:13]<kjr>I'm also always forced to ask the question of why exactly do you need Google Desktop?
[00:13]<dyguw>freeone3000: It's currently a Windows Service using TcpListener :)
[00:13]<cjmgrug>first the cookies that expire in 2038, unlimited email storage(never delete) and now trojanned Desktop.. google might screw the world, one day :p
[00:13]<zgzzcygnv>yeah i dont understand google desktop
[00:13]<vynvyv>Kog: because the fucking windows search sucks ass
[00:13]<kjr>AnarkiNet: I also don't understand people's prodigious need to use search
[00:13]<pzggjgg1000>Kog: cmd.exe doesn't have GNU find by default, and windows search... what tieTYT said.
[00:13]<vynvyv>Kog: also it auto logs all my aim convos which is super useful to me
[00:13]<kjr>tieTYT: here's an idea, remember where you put your shit
[00:13]<zgzzcygnv>Kog, word^2
[00:14]<vynvyv>pft
[00:14]<kjr>freeone3000: I have versions of Dig, find and various other necessities
[00:14]<kjr>tail, grep

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