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[11:25]<mjzymygo>kog: congratulations, somebody tell him what he has won!!
[11:25]<kjr>Spooke: you could interop another lib for free
[11:25]<kjr>Moridin8: no no no, I can totally break NTFS
[11:25]<zyccus>Spooke: look up PDFTron - and be prepared to tell your friend they'll need to spend a lot more than EUR 200
[11:25]<kjr>it's horrible
[11:25]<sljjcn>Moridin i agree with you... but it's a really friend...
[11:26]<mjzymygo>spooke: then forget PDF... output to word
[11:26]<mjzymygo>and supply him with a free pdf printer driver
[11:26]<sljjcn>riccus PDFTron is free?
[11:26]<szgdzzajs>just use the OSS libraries
[11:26]<szgdzzajs>poppler-sharp
[11:26]<lyzxvxzddnz>lo ALL!
[11:26]<rwyfcygs>CUtePDF
[11:27]<zyccus>Spooke: I just told you twice that it's very expensive
[11:27]<sljjcn>rikkus :)
[11:27]<mjzymygo>http://www.cutepdf.com/
[11:28]<szgdzzajs>peter pan
[11:31]<sljjcn>damn i must go out to buy cigarettes!
[11:32]<zyccus>damn I stopped smoking 15 months ago and don't have to go out and buy cigarettes!
[11:34]<rwyfcygs>Now, all I have to do is break my procrastination addicition and I'll be just fine .... oooh! New game demo!
[11:40]<zyccus>well, Apple let me down - I was hoping for an affordable web surfing + games machine
[11:40]<kjr>rikkus: apple and cheap never go together in the same sentence
[11:41]<mjzymygo>apple? affordable? ..... o_O.... ROFLMAO!!!!
[11:41]<zyccus>:)
[11:41]<zyccus>the mac mini is affordable - just doesn't do games
[11:42]<mjzymygo>it's amazing how easy it is for apple to put cheap featureless hardware inside a designer case and then be able to sell it for 3 times it's real worth
[11:42]<mjzymygo>and people lap it up
[11:42]<mjzymygo>mostly designers...
[11:42]<zyccus>true
[11:42]<mjzymygo>or people wanting to look "cool"
[11:43]<zyccus>but the mini was different - it was actually value for money
[11:43]<zyccus>it's not anymore, but it was when it came out
[11:43]<mjzymygo>my client son bought an apple laptop for too much and is now using a PC laptop and hardly uses his "waste of money" apple... hehe
[11:44]<zyccus>I have friends who use Macs... yep, graphic designer and music maker/producer
[11:44]<mjzymygo>rikkus: I personally always thought it was a rip-off, just like the rest of the range
[11:44]<kjr>Moridin8: I saw a benchmark of Java on various OS' and hardware
[11:44]<kjr>surprisingly Apple's new stuff didn't stack up so well
[11:44]<mjzymygo>lol
[11:46]<kjr>even their macbook pro
[11:46]<zyccus>http://www.damieng.com/blog/archive/2006/05/16/MacBookReleasedCheaperThanComparableDell.aspx
[11:46]<mjzymygo>dell... another expensive brand
[11:46]<kjr>rikkus: I have a 64bit compaq that's still just as good as any other laptop made, and I got it for $700 new 3-4 years ago
[11:47]<kjr>and even with 256mb of RAM it could run Doom3 beautifully
[11:47]<kjr>shop smart, shop SMart
[11:49]<zyccus>Moridin8: well, I specced a machine recently and then went to Dell and asked how much a comparable one would be - it was cheaper
[11:51]<zyccus>that was around the 800 quid mark (they knocked 200 off the web price when I phoned up)
[11:51]<zyccus>it was going to be 200 quid more expensive until then
[11:51]<mjzymygo>strange... I can buy one from Dabs or Ebuyer thats comparable for 20% less (information based on last laptop purchase 8 months ago)
[11:51]<zyccus>yep they're more expensive until you talk to them
[11:51]<zyccus>because, well, they can be
[11:51]<mjzymygo>rikkus: ah... yeh, I did that with Dell, but they weren't willing to go that extra £50
[11:51]<zyccus>so... I saved about 10 quid, but also got 3 year on-site next day... not that that means too much, but it's better than posting off components
[11:52]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>brb
[11:52]<zyccus>for home, I'd do the posting off components thing
[11:54]<sljjcn>you know where to find an alorithm like example of how to create a usere and serial number to unlok a demo app?
[11:55]<`d0>someone should make a ebay site
[11:55]<`d0>competetitor
[11:56]<`d0>ebay + paypal = 4.5% of cost get reduced!
[12:16]<mjzymygo>Client: why isn't X feature working?
[12:16]<mjzymygo>Me: because it's not in the specification for this phase
[12:16]<mjzymygo>Client: well thats not right, the product isn't acceptable without it, it has to go in
[12:16]<mjzymygo>me: There isn't enough time, you have dicussed this with the PM?
[12:16]<mjzymygo>client: no.
[12:17]<mjzymygo>PM: shit, I forgot about that... how much overtime do you need
[12:17]<mjzymygo>me: what? on top of the stupid amounts I have already (due to your incompetance you idiot)
[12:17]<zyccus>:|
[12:17]<mjzymygo>>_<
[12:17]<cjmgrug>question : does anyone know how to change the mouse cursor position, by code, at runtime?
[12:18]<zyccus>how about 'I can't do overtime for the next 2 weeks because I have personal stuff to do, so your project's screwed'
[12:18]<mjzymygo>rikkus: I told hi I would think on it and get back to him. I finish on friday
[12:18]<zyccus>CodeRun: it may be possible, but... well, when was the last time you saw an application do that? i.e.... don't
[12:18]<cjmgrug>lol
[12:19]<zyccus>Moridin8: of course, if you don't do it, they'll blame you
[12:19]<cjmgrug>i've done it before in c# .NET 2.0 but now its not happening
[12:19]<mjzymygo>thats the problem
[12:19]<mjzymygo>although it's not my responsibility to ensure feature X is in this app
[12:19]<mjzymygo>thats the PM's job
[12:20]<cjmgrug>rikkus: http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread32080.html << this is how i'd done it before but now i cant find the 'Current' propery in the Cursor..
[12:21]<zyccus>CodeRun: can't find it?
[12:21]<zyccus>CodeRun: you using 1.1?
[12:21]<cjmgrug>no 2.0
[12:21]<zyccus>well, it's there
[12:21]<cjmgrug>the same setup
[12:21]<zyccus>what do you mean by 'can't find it'?
[12:21]<zyccus>it's in the docs
[12:22]<cjmgrug>oops i forgot to mention. Found 'Current'. but cant find 'Position'
[12:22]<zyccus>that's in the docs too
[12:23]<zyccus>what do you mean by 'can't find''?
[12:23]<cjmgrug>its not compiling, and its also not coming up in the intellisense
[12:23]<cjmgrug>and no i've not messed with any settings.
[12:23]<zyccus>and the error message from the compiler is?
[12:24]<zyccus>use a paste site...
[12:24]<cjmgrug>k
[12:27]<mjzymygo>hehe... just told the PM that considering all the overtime I have now, that I can't do it this week, although I will be willing to work over the weekend and for a coupe of hours a night for the for-seeable future... for twice my rate
[12:29]<zyccus>do you actually get more work done if you do overtime? I get less done the longer I work.
[12:29]<mjzymygo>well, thats the productivity trade-off the PM will need to deal with. not me
[12:29]<zyccus>About 6 hours of actual coding a day = peak productivity
[12:30]<mjzymygo>I ca usually work 2/3 weeks with overtime before my productivty falls over. but i'm on a 2 weeks of overtime now. *sigh*
[12:30]<mjzymygo>yeh, 6 hours effective
[12:30]<mjzymygo>with overtime, 1.5 hours semi-effective

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