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[14:23]<nffylsys_>if you can cheat it, it's not that strong.
[14:23]<mjzymygo>Tygrys[minsk]: Rikkus us right... your next step is a keyboard driver suragate
[14:24]<nffylsys_>Moridin8 is probably right
[14:24]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: i don`t know the spec. of his keyboard driver and i cant find it
[14:24]<nffylsys_>first off
[14:24]<mjzymygo>Tygrys[minsk]: all PC's use the same core driver
[14:24]<nffylsys_>how will you get the app onto his computer?
[14:25]<mjzymygo>uhn ... phone
[14:25]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: our system admin will make it - it is difficult way with help of windows update service
[14:25]<nffylsys_>:/
[14:26]<nffylsys_>if you have the help of the sysadmin, why are you using a "difficult" way?
[14:26]<nffylsys_>:/
[14:26]<nffylsys_>also, WHY are you keylogging this guy?
[14:26]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: cause there are some part of our companu
[14:26]<tdzzds[dygsc]> the managers think that guys from another part of our company sells information to ours rivals!
[14:26]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: the easiest solution is one of the loggers which attaches to the keyboard cable at the computer
[14:26]<nffylsys_>yeah
[14:27]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: you just plug it in, leave it, then come back and plug it into another machine and play it back into notepad
[14:27]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: system admins from our part are supports windows update service
[14:27]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: it is a joke?
[14:27]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: no
[14:27]<nffylsys_>anyway, i have a problem of my own. I've got a textbox, and a folderbrowserdialog. once the user selects a folder in the dialog, how do I make it's path appear in the textbox as soon as he closes the dialog?
[14:28]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: in these way i think it is not good idea
[14:28]<zyccus>http://www.keyghost.com/
[14:28]<tdzzds[dygsc]>anyway guys, any more idea with unkillable of proccess?
[14:29]<nffylsys_>I'm using the "Leave" event
[14:29]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: i have no access physically to bad guys comps(
[14:29]<sdnffdxdlld>personally I'd go with the hardware keylogger ... if your doing it through your company its trivial getting it fitted and then retriving it
[14:29]<nffylsys_>but that only fires if, after closing the folder dialog box, I click somewhere on the base form.
[14:29]<sdnffdxdlld>Tygrys[minsk]: if some of your managers think hes at fault they can grant access
[14:29]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: just buy this: http://www.powered-keylogger.com/
[14:30]<tdzzds[dygsc]>smellyhippy: and it wiil be a long term waiting for these stuff i am in hole of europe)
[14:30]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: i have no time(
[14:30]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: time? to pay for software?
[14:30]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: to deliver it to us
[14:30]<zyccus>but you have time to write a kernel driver?
[14:30]<zyccus>you can download it
[14:30]<zyccus>if you have an Internet connection
[14:30]<zyccus>:/
[14:30]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: kernel driver is a varinat
[14:31]<tdzzds[dygsc]>good idei
[14:31]<tdzzds[dygsc]>good idea
[14:31]<nffylsys_>but how will keylogging him help?
[14:31]<nffylsys_>if he's selling company data, he's probably just copying files off or something
[14:31]<nffylsys_>at most, you'll get Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V
[14:32]<zyccus>unless he's doing scp important_data.zip rival_company:
[14:32]<nffylsys_>:/
[14:32]<nffylsys_>which I doubt
[14:32]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>ellipsis_: I suppose that would mean Tygrys[minsk] needs to monitor the properybag too then huh ;)
[14:32]<nffylsys_>I mean, think about it
[14:32]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: he attends our goals in team conference and then type it
[14:32]<nffylsys_>hahaha
[14:33]<nffylsys_>what an idiot
[14:33]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: and it is not my problem my problem is to keylogg it
[14:33]<tdzzds[dygsc]>i don`t know the details
[14:33]<tdzzds[dygsc]>i know what is my goal
[14:33]<nffylsys_>does your computer have any antivirus software installed?
[14:33]<nffylsys_>that is
[14:33]<nffylsys_>your company computers
[14:34]<tdzzds[dygsc]>mybe someone other will logg the file which his system will ask
[14:34]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: yes
[14:34]<tdzzds[dygsc]>nod32
[14:34]<nffylsys_>hm
[14:34]<nffylsys_>I don't think that has a built in hook detector
[14:34]<nffylsys_>unlike kaspersky
[14:34]<nffylsys_>kaspersky protects against everything
[14:34]<nffylsys_>D:
[14:35]<tdzzds[dygsc]>nod32 don`t have
[14:35]<nffylsys_>so it should be easy getting a keylogger in
[14:35]<nffylsys_>just stay back after work
[14:35]<nffylsys_>also, if he's stupid enough to type them out on a company computer, I don't think he checks the running processes
[14:35]<nffylsys_>just because he's a programmer doesn't mean that he, personally, is security conscious
[14:36]<tdzzds[dygsc]>i have the way how to deliever keylogger into his comp - i have noit got the way how to hide it
[14:36]<nffylsys_>umm
[14:36]<nffylsys_>same here, rikkus
[14:36]<sdnffdxdlld>yeah me too
[14:36]<zyccus>just buy a bloody pre-written keylogger
[14:36]<sdnffdxdlld>time for work again :(
[14:36]<tdzzds[dygsc]>guyes a i don`t knows the details i shouldf wite mine own
[14:36]<sdnffdxdlld>bbl
[14:36]<nffylsys_>don't write your own
[14:37]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: tell your boss it'll take 2 months and you'll need some books
[14:37]<nffylsys_>just go to packetstormsecurity, download one, they usually come with readme files
[14:37]<zyccus>Tygrys[minsk]: or you can buy one cheap today
[14:37]<tdzzds[dygsc]>rikkus: i wrote - we have rwther sophisticated sec. system i know how to cheat it but keyloggers don`t!
[14:37]<nffylsys_>:/
[14:37]<nffylsys_>sophisticated security system?
[14:38]<tdzzds[dygsc]>sorry)
[14:38]<zyccus>if you're that sophisticated, I wonder why you can't understand that you can't hide a process?
[14:38]<nffylsys_>for fucks sake, you have the sysadmin on your side. just log into that computer under an administrator account, and install it
[14:38]<tdzzds[dygsc]>not sophicsticated
[14:38]<tdzzds[dygsc]>difficult
[14:38]<nffylsys_>you don't even have to hide the process
[14:38]<nffylsys_>just name it lsass.exe
[14:38]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: i have the sysadmin which is update all comps only
[14:38]<nffylsys_>and unless he's some kind of super-paranoid guy, he'll not even bother checking the running processes every day
[14:38]<nffylsys_>and even then
[14:39]<nffylsys_>it's almost impossible that he'd notice two lsass.exe processes
[14:39]<nffylsys_>unless he was specifically looking for it
[14:39]<tdzzds[dygsc]>ellipsis_: maybe he will attack of paranoya

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