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[19:54]<cjmgrug>Step 2: Rotate the knob anti-clockwise
[19:54]<cjmgrug>Step 3: Release the knob.
[19:55]<cjmgrug>:p
[19:55]<rxrcr>profit?
[19:55]<cjmgrug>?
[19:59]<cjmgrug>anybody here, planning to start a new open-source project?
[20:04]<cxrfnm>CodeRun, yes, F# for mono, interested ?
[20:08]<cjmgrug>lol, fortran ?
[20:11]<cjmgrug>oops.
[20:11]<cxrfnm>http://research.microsoft.com/fsharp/manual/advanced.aspx
[20:11]<cjmgrug>its derived from CAML.
[20:12]<cjmgrug>this is really tough, isnt it?
[20:13]<sjlx>it'S kinda boring unless u love it.
[20:14]<cjmgrug>redear!
[20:14]<cjmgrug>you there?
[20:15]<cjmgrug>are all open-source projects, this complicated?
[20:15]<cxrfnm>not really
[20:16]<cxrfnm>you can do whatever you want
[20:16]<cxrfnm>just think of a new idea
[20:16]<cxrfnm>and implement it
[20:16]<cxrfnm>hopefully, it will be useful for others
[20:17]<cjmgrug>hmm.
[20:18]<cxrfnm>CodeRun, do you use linux ?
[20:18]<cjmgrug>i've just started understanding ubuntu.
[20:18]<cxrfnm>ah cool
[20:18]<cjmgrug>its installed and ready. i just fiddle with it when i like :p
[20:19]<cxrfnm>MonoDevelop needs UML designer and code generator
[20:19]<cxrfnm>you may want to work on that
[20:19]<cjmgrug>hey, thats nice
[20:19]<cjmgrug>nicer* :p
[20:20]<cxrfnm>yes, i can tell you whom to contact
[20:20]<cxrfnm>and where to get help from
[20:20]<cjmgrug>sure
[20:20]<cxrfnm>i would love to join too once I am done with Google SoC
[20:20]<cxrfnm> #mono @ irc.gimp.net
[20:20]<cjmgrug>ok
[20:21]<cxrfnm>lluis is the guy for monodevelop
[20:21]<cjmgrug>i see. thanks
[20:21]<cxrfnm>miguel is like the overall project co-ordinator
[20:21]<cxrfnm>so he is the first one, you should contact
[20:22]<cxrfnm>about your idea
[20:22]<cxrfnm>he will make sure it is unique to avoid duplicates
[20:23]<cjmgrug>right
[20:25]<yzvnzzrf_>Morning all. If I have a method X that does Y operations, what is the best way to do Y and Z operations? Method X takes no arguments, however, if one is present (X is overriden), then I would like Z operations to be done in addition to Y operations.
[20:26]<yzvnzzrf_>Reminds me of super() for an overriden method
[20:27]<sdnffdxdlld>if(methodParam != null) {doSomething();}?
[20:27]<zj2-wzc>integral_: depends on the arguments. If passing null is illegal then you can have the default methodX() redirect to methodX(object o) with a null, then use a if (o == null) { do Z; } in the method
[20:27]<yzvnzzrf_>smellyhippy: Yeah, that's what I have. I was just wondering if I could go without the condition
[20:27]<nvzzfzsv>call the no-arg method first thing in the arg method.
[20:28]<yzvnzzrf_>Ok thanks. Let me do that
[20:29]<yzvnzzrf_>Ah yes. How mindless of me. Thanks guys ;)
[20:41]<awjzdd>smellyhippy: oi!
[20:41]<awjzdd>rob-wrk: hola playa
[20:42]<sdnffdxdlld>lo :)
[20:42]<jdvgdjgcgd>its the hippy
[20:42]<jdvgdjgcgd>everyone was looking for you yesterday for some reason
[20:42]<sdnffdxdlld>lol
[20:42]<sdnffdxdlld>what for?
[20:42]<awjzdd>Jivemonkey! sup playa.
[20:42]<jdvgdjgcgd>i dont know
[20:42]<jdvgdjgcgd>sup wormy
[20:42]<sdnffdxdlld>hehe well they can find me today
[20:46]<cjmgrug>smellyhippy! where were you?? :p
[20:46]<sdnffdxdlld>I was at a friends having a few j's and a few LAN games :P
[20:46]<cjmgrug>Kog was crying :p
[20:47]<sdnffdxdlld>lol
[20:47]<sdnffdxdlld>I'm fed up with where i live so I caught a lift back to my home town and chilled there
[20:47]<cjmgrug>good
[20:48]<cjmgrug>question : Is Lisp, a language worth learning?
[20:48]<sjlx>depends.
[20:48]<sdnffdxdlld>thinking of moving to a near by city but it does mean a 45min commute each way ... currently its a 5 min walk hehe
[20:49]<azyfm>you should pick a city that's nearer, then
[20:49]<cjmgrug>soph: depends on what?
[20:49]<sdnffdxdlld>Arild: there isnt one
[20:49]<sjlx>CodeRun: if you're kind of masochistic ;)
[20:49]<sjlx>(sp?)
[20:49]<sdnffdxdlld>only towns like this one
[20:50]<sdnffdxdlld>I dont mind towns ... my home town is great but this place sucks
[20:50]<sjlx>well whatever, functional programming languages are nice for their very special purposes, but imho not for killing spare time.
[20:50]<mjzymygo>smellyhippy: worse than Kington?
[20:51]<sdnffdxdlld>yeah kington I was in a flat share ... here I just have myself for company
[20:51]<cjmgrug>i dont have spare time. I need to squeeze out time to learn something important. Just wondering if Lisp is worth it.
[20:51]<sjlx>go ahead
[20:51]<sjlx>and find it out
[20:51]<zj2-wzc>jwormy: good mornin'
[20:51]<mjzymygo>smellyhippy: ^_^
[20:51]<cjmgrug>i saw some video tutorials oh MIT's Compsci teaching course. man! its complicated!
[20:52]<mjzymygo>functional languages = baaaaaas
[20:52]<mjzymygo>imho
[20:52]<sdnffdxdlld>lol work have blocked th RDP port to my home IP
[20:52]<mjzymygo>-s+d
[20:52]<awjzdd>grrrr
[20:52]<mjzymygo>why? caught you being naughty?
[20:52]<awjzdd>after reviewing my coworkers code... he left some testing... 'expenses.Notes = "booobiessss";
[20:52]<awjzdd>in the damn code
[20:53]<sdnffdxdlld>nahhh but I think i pushed it a lil ... they didnt say anything tho cause one of the other devs used it too and hes the network admin
[20:53]<mjzymygo>change the port ;)
[20:54]<sdnffdxdlld>lol if my monitors were facing the wall I'd go as far as tunnelling it or encrypting it to stop protocol detection too but its obvious when i use it
[20:55]<yzvnzzrf_>Can you change the port on which rdp runs on a win box?
[20:56]<awjzdd>i hate companies that do that

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