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[16:10]<lcs>but it does not have to be OO
[16:10]<zrrry>idd, but it is
[16:11]<zrrry>he spoke about it in an interview, i think prejudice has it in a book around here somewhere
[16:12]<dbq>will q4 be c# ? :)
[16:12]<zrrry>dunno
[16:12]<lcs>q4 is released
[16:13]<dbq>q5..
[16:13]<zrrry>hopefully not, titan quest is slow as a dog, designing that kind of app in this kind of language takes alot of thought about how the langauge will implement it's features
[16:13]<lcs>we are doing it in C++
[16:13]<lcs>the first idea was ofc java
[16:14]<zrrry>you could do it, but as above, lots of thought
[16:14]<dbq>http://cgi.ebay.com/2-of-Ron-Steens-Future-Earnings-For-College-Money_W0QQitemZ110018311959QQihZ001QQcategoryZ26261QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[16:14]<dbq>rofl
[16:14]<lcs>but after seeing some benchamarks... i have resigned
[16:14]<zrrry>the python docs on optimisation would be an interesting insight initially ;)
[16:14]<zrrry>amusingly enough
[16:16]<zrrry>DB2: look under the bid button: Pay no interest until 2007 - Apply
[16:16]<zrrry>hahahaha
[16:17]<dbq>on digg "I hope he doesn't die early"
[16:17]<zrrry>lol
[16:18]<mjzymygo>he should offer 5%... then there may be a taker
[16:18]<zrrry>or he gets a med student to kill him and revive him
[16:18]<zrrry>i think it's actually a really good investment idea
[16:19]<zrrry>especially if the buyer then also assists to get him into a good position
[16:19]<dbq>how is it good ? read the comments on http://digg.com/offbeat_news/eBay_Kid_Auctions_Off_2_of_His_Income_for_the_Rest_of_His_Working_Life
[16:19]<dbq>it looks pretty crappy investment
[16:20]<zrrry>he aims to make £30m
[16:20]<zrrry>oops
[16:20]<dbq>people aim allot, so?
[16:20]<dbq>i aim to make more then bill gates
[16:21]<zrrry>good for you, get of irc and get on with it then
[16:21]<dbq>don't people hanging out in irc channels usually make much more or much less ?
[16:21]<zrrry>blag some multinational to invest in something you don't have then find it.
[16:21]<dbq>(then the avg)
[16:22]<mjzymygo>*g* "The SAT's are out of 2400 now, so a 1550 is the new 800....so basically this guy is a retard."
[16:22]<zrrry>lol
[16:22]<mjzymygo>he hasn't even taken into account inflationary rates
[16:22]<mjzymygo>I agree with the retard statement
[16:22]<mjzymygo>good luck to him tho
[16:22]<zrrry>well he can't spell accept
[16:23]<zrrry>and he should have proof read that at least once
[16:23]<mjzymygo>*g*
[16:23]<zrrry>so fair enough this guys probably an idiot, but, the idea is sound for capable individuals
[16:23]<mjzymygo>it's probably a laugh thing with his mates to see if anyone actually does it
[16:23]<zrrry>i had 10 years proven industry experience when i got to uni
[16:24]<mjzymygo>good for you... I had 3
[16:24]<zrrry>:)
[16:24]<zrrry>Moridin8: doesn't it cost money to hold a reserve though, or is that a fixed rate?
[16:25]<mjzymygo>raggi: If i knew the context of your statement, I could possibly answer you... >_O
[16:25]<zrrry>Moridin8: it's probably a laugh thing with his mates to see if anyone actually does it
[16:26]<mjzymygo>raggi: ah... right. well they charge a small fee for the advertisement. but Ebay don't take anything else unless the auction is successful
[16:27]<zrrry>ah ok
[16:27]<dbq>a capable individual can do better then thsi crap
[16:27]<mjzymygo>in which case they get a fuckload
[16:27]<mjzymygo>DB2 ??
[16:27]<zrrry>DB2: true
[16:27]<dbq>he wouldnt need to go on ebay offering 2% of his income
[16:28]<dbq>Moridin8: can you help me out figuring out how to check an object data members via refelction ?
[16:28]<ufvzrdrr>hi.. does System.Drawing use GDI or GDI?
[16:28]<mjzymygo>true
[16:28]<ufvzrdrr>GDI+*
[16:28]<mjzymygo>GDI+
[16:28]<zrrry>DB2: if he played his cards right he could just get 10 or more investors, invest all of the money in a capable investment team, and earn 10-20% off of it, lol, and never work.
[16:29]<mjzymygo>ultramag: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.drawing.aspx
[16:29]<ufvzrdrr>ok
[16:30]<ufvzrdrr>well, I'm getting varied exceptions from the Bitmap constructor when trying to create large bitmaps
[16:31]<ufvzrdrr>like above 5000x5000
[16:31]<mjzymygo>utlramag: depth?
[16:31]<gjrvcxnne>that's because a bitmap that size takes up 760mb of memory
[16:31]<gjrvcxnne>daher
[16:31]<gwaglvyjg>hello guys
[16:31]<gjrvcxnne>errr
[16:31]<gjrvcxnne>no it doesnt
[16:31]<gjrvcxnne>my bad...
[16:32]<gjrvcxnne>it's 100mb
[16:32]<dbq>nobody here tried to reflect an object's data members ?
[16:33]<zrrry>i make it 286mb in 32bit colour
[16:33]<mjzymygo>if it's a 5000x5000z8bit depth image, its 23.8mb
[16:33]<ufvzrdrr>DB2: I've done that
[16:33]<gwaglvyjg>What do you mean saying 'data members'
[16:33]<zrrry>DB2: you can get all public members using what you've tried
[16:33]<mjzymygo>143mb in 32bit
[16:33]<ufvzrdrr>well, why would I get an exception?
[16:33]<zrrry>DB2: did you see when I said to get binding flags for the instance you're trying to access?
[16:33]<ufvzrdrr>I know it's a large allocations.. but I have at least 2 gigs to spare
[16:34]<ufvzrdrr>I've done that too, but sometimes it crashes
[16:34]<dbq>raggi: no
[16:34]<ufvzrdrr>(throws exceptions from underlying GDI+)
[16:34]<zrrry>DB2: ah ok. try to get binding flags for the instance
[16:34]<dbq>how ?
[16:35]<gjrvcxnne>it should be ok...
[16:35]<zrrry>heh, i've not tried to do that yet
[16:35]<gjrvcxnne>u can always use a 3rd partgy toolkit (www.jpg.com)
[16:35]<mjzymygo>ultramag... whats the exception?
[16:35]<dbq>ultramag: why does foreach (MemberInfo memberInfo in this.GetType().GetMembers()) not return anything?
[16:35]<ufvzrdrr>GoatCheez: personally I prefer crazy party toolkits
[16:35]<gjrvcxnne>eh?
[16:35]<gjrvcxnne>lol
[16:36]<zrrry>DB2: BindingFlags.Instance
[16:36]<mjzymygo>DB3: for security reasons using the default bindings returns fuck all

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