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[19:48]<aylxz>timers...easiest...
[19:48]<aylxz>phpwner...now clear.... :(
[19:48]<aylxz>not*
[19:48]<___xxx_x_>Stopwatch :)
[19:48]<aylxz>COOL
[19:48]<aylxz>XD
[19:49]<azyfm>How do you make a splitter control tabstop?
[19:50]<aylxz>if there is no property....u cant.....imo...
[19:50]<azyfm>the TFS Source Control Explorer does it
[19:50]<azyfm>it's a Windows Explorer-like view
[19:50]<aylxz>custom control?...
[19:50]<azyfm>if you tab from the treeview, you land on the splitter
[19:58]<zrrry>ah
[19:58]<zrrry>who was it with that IndexOutOfRange and the binary conversion?
[19:59]<aylxz>mpforste
[19:59]<zrrry>i've found where it's probably coming from, yuo say your binary strings are arbritrary length (i.e. not byte padded or aligned)?
[19:59]<zrrry>mpforste: re
[19:59]<aylxz>where...i would like to know... :D
[19:59]<zrrry>string.Substring
[19:59]<aylxz>oh....XD
[20:00]<aylxz>i remembered....he fixed the problem
[20:00]<aylxz>he said that he copied the code directly from java code
[20:00]<aylxz>in java....its substring(start, end).....in cs...it is substring(start, length)
[20:00]<zrrry>i was just looking at how to do the conversion by hand efficiently in c# heh, as a little break from other things.
[20:01]<zrrry>it'll still break if you do the loop incorrectly
[20:01]<aylxz>:D
[20:01]<aylxz>conversion of that binary to byte?
[20:01]<zrrry>i just prototyped mapping a whole-byte substring to bytes and got an error with a non-byte aligned string
[20:02]<aylxz>ic..
[20:23]<gjrvcxnne>is there a way I can have my program "hook" keyboard input so that it can catch a certain key combination no matter what current windows program is active
[20:24]<drygq>GoatCheez: trying to write a keylogger huh, little script kiddie ;D
[20:24]<cjmgrug>haha
[20:24]<cjmgrug>cmon, thats not being a script kiddie.
[20:25]<drygq>worst?
[20:25]<gjrvcxnne>i have an automated test suite
[20:25]<cjmgrug>no better
[20:25]<gjrvcxnne>it execute tests... i want to be able to press ctrl-alt-shit-h to stop testing
[20:25]<drygq>thats a HOTkey..
[20:25]<cjmgrug>since skiddies just use available tools and hax0r you. he's atleast writing his own keylogger :p
[20:25]<_fzzs_>when I return this are all the strings copied or am I just returnign a reference to list? static List<string> LoadFile()
[20:25]<gjrvcxnne>although i'll probably use similar code to write a macro prog for some MMORPGs lol
[20:26]<drygq>GoatCheez: google a bit m8 http://www.google.com/search?hs=LpD&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=c%23+hotkeys&btnG=Search
[20:26]<drygq>btw, its really shit easy
[20:27]<drygq>every scriptkiddie can do it :O
[20:28]<drygq>well at least, it was when i used it in C++
[20:29]<gjrvcxnne>it looks almost too simple still
[20:29]<gjrvcxnne>lol
[20:31]<cjmgrug>main2, this can be done similarly for mouse event too, right?
[20:31]<cjmgrug>events*
[20:31]<drygq>yes
[20:32]<_fzzs_>anyone? is this copying all the strings or just returning a reference. List<string> LoadFile() { List<string> list = new List<string>(); ... return list; }
[20:32]<aylxz>nor clear
[20:32]<aylxz>not*
[20:33]<azyfm>_lars: you don't really care
[20:33]<_fzzs_>yes I do
[20:34]<azyfm>strings are rarely copied
[20:37]<_fzzs_>rarely? I don't understand. are these strings returned by value or reference
[20:38]<lnvnzxu>_lars_: both List<T> and String are reference types, they have copy and pass by reference semantics
[20:39]<gjrvcxnne>how do i add a system-wide message filter?
[20:39]<lnvnzxu>window message?
[20:40]<_fzzs_>peterhu what about this, someone said it in other channel
[20:40]<_fzzs_><GeneticCr> depends on if you are crossing a context boundary of any kind
[20:40]<_fzzs_><GeneticCr> but generally it is a simply reference
[20:40]<_fzzs_>"crossing a context boundary"?
[20:41]<_fzzs_>I really don't like if all the strings could be copied. I'm returning all the lines in a file
[20:41]<cjmgrug>i guess he's crossed his boundary towards madness :p
[20:41]<lnvnzxu>_lars_: basically if you cross an appdomain boundary and a reference type is not marshaled by reference, it will be marshaled by value, meaning it will be serialized into a stream and recreated on the other side of the boundary
[20:42]<lnvnzxu>however, from your context, it is passed back by reference to the caller
[20:42]<_fzzs_>ok thanks
[20:43]<drygq>does anyone know a IDE with 'COBOL 2002' compiler/linker?
[20:43]<aylxz>vs?
[20:43]<drygq>is there a linker/compiler for it?
[20:43]<aylxz>dont know...
[20:44]<aylxz>never googled for this..
[20:46]<drygq>ROFL Fujitsu NetCOBOL for .NET
[20:46]<drygq>lololol0l0l
[20:46]<drygq>this is a language, i swear by god - it will never die
[20:47]<drygq>nobody can kill cobol
[20:47]<aylxz>how the code look like?
[20:47]<aylxz>veebee
[20:47]<aylxz>?
[20:47]<drygq>PROBABLY THE same as 50 years ago?
[20:47]<aylxz>:D
[20:47]<drygq>ciphr, its different then basic (not comparable)
[20:47]<aylxz>ic
[20:47]<drygq>WELL, IT USES A LOT OF CAPS
[20:47]<drygq>in basic you did that as well
[20:47]<mjzymygo>COBAL == baaaaaad
[20:48]<drygq>http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/cobol/hworld.html
[20:48]<drygq>Moridin8: yes ima baaad boy
[20:49]<aylxz>wtf.....its all caps...not lots of
[20:49]<drygq>Fujitsu NetCOBOL for .NET, oh men.. this must be so fuckin cool :D
[20:49]<aylxz>wtf is cool in it?... :D
[20:51]<mjzymygo>w.h.a.t. .i.s. .t.h.e. .p.o.i.n.t. .o.f. .C.O.B.O.L?
[20:51]<drygq>:P
[20:51]<mjzymygo>COBOL.DisposeWithExtremePredjudice();
[20:52]<mjzymygo>I can't believe people still use cobol....
[20:53]<azyfm>Women understand COBOL
[20:53]<azyfm>Like them, it has lots of periods
[20:55]<drygq>http://www.netcobol.com/products/windows/netcobol/WebServices1.jpg







