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[11:52]<rfffgdrgwq19>morePuzzles : Array of List of String
[11:52]<rfffgdrgwq19>- at the start on a uml diagram
[11:52]<bjv_buyfmnz>CodeRun - what the hell
[11:52]<rfffgdrgwq19>-morePuzzles : Array of List of String
[11:52]<bjv_buyfmnz>" how do express an Array of List of String"
[11:53]<rfffgdrgwq19>on a uml diagram
[11:53]<bjv_buyfmnz>oh. uml.
[11:53]<cjmgrug>lol i dont know uml.
[11:53]<bjv_buyfmnz>well, uml sucks ass
[11:53]<rfffgdrgwq19>I know that
[11:53]<cjmgrug>representation on uml, ie,
[11:53]<kjr>you just give it the typename
[11:53]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>wtf would you want an array of list of strings?
[11:53]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>it's called a double-subscribed array!
[11:53]<rfffgdrgwq19>jagged array ?
[11:53]<kjr>Project2501a: I was just assuming he was doing something dumb like List[] heh
[11:54]<kjr>goddamnit, that's cog
[11:54]<cjmgrug>hehe
[11:54]<cjmgrug>lol
[11:54]<kjr>Project2501a: original joke by the way
[11:54]<kjr>never heard it. Not even once.
[11:54]<cjmgrug>Kog : redundant.
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>ok
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>here
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>^-- here's an original joke.
[11:55]<rfffgdrgwq19>so is String[][] ok ?
[11:55]<kjr>hm, I must be lagging my ass off
[11:55]<kjr>CodeRun: ?
[11:55]<kjr>Appleman1234: UML has a place, you'll use it occasionally when you work on larger projects
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>UML == teh stupid.
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Appleman1234: yes.
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>UML is a hyped up version of the fucking FlowCharrt diagrams of the 80s
[11:55]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>what Kog said.
[11:55]<kjr>Appleman1234: the problem is that most professors can't explain it and you don't need it for smaller projects
[11:56]<kjr>no, UML != "teh stupid," you just should use it when you need it
[11:56]<cjmgrug>Project2501a : no, they are nothing like flowcharts
[11:56]<kjr>CodeRun: some of the diagrams are flowchartesque
[11:56]<fjn2svnz>uml is a bit bloated, it isn't "obvious", as it a chart should be
[11:56]<kjr>it depends on what diagrams, there are multiple types
[11:57]<rfffgdrgwq19>Kog: I agree with you :)
[11:57]<rfffgdrgwq19>I understand the important of UML
[11:57]<kjr>Appleman1234: the other downfall of UML is th at the tools suck
[11:57]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Appleman1234: listen: for any project less that 5K lines of code, you don't need UML
[11:57]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>UML is for projects larger than 20K
[11:57]<kjr>my profs were using Word diagramming..
[11:57]<rfffgdrgwq19>It is just that my lecturers and course designers are teaching C# in a terrible way
[11:57]<kjr>Project2501a: I used it on what turned out to be an 80 line project
[11:57]<kjr>Project2501a: because it was very, very abstract
[11:57]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>"I want a marble"
[11:58]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>"no, no, i want a BLUE marble"
[11:58]<kjr>only reason it ended up being 80 lines is because Ruby is very elegent
[11:58]<cjmgrug>Visio is pretty good, imo.
[11:58]<kjr>Project2501a: it was more like "I need to build a framework that'll do just about anything"
[11:58]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>even make coffee?
[11:58]<kjr>theoretically, it sure can
[11:58]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>lol
[11:58]<cjmgrug>heh, smart.
[11:58]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>payday today!
[11:59]<kjr>Project2501a: you tell your system to call a widget that makes coffee, but it only deals with emails. So you'd have to email your coffeepot
[11:59]<rfffgdrgwq19>I also resent the C# course because I am Linux user
[11:59]<rfffgdrgwq19>I would have preferred to learn Java
[11:59]<cjmgrug>Project2501a, thanks, you owe me 500$.. its time i should get it back ;)
[11:59]<kjr>Appleman1234: so write in Java ;)
[11:59]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Kog: lol
[11:59]<rfffgdrgwq19>Can't
[11:59]<kjr>Appleman1234: programming is about programming, not the language you write in
[11:59]<kjr>who cares what you learn
[11:59]<rfffgdrgwq19>it is to my lecturers
[11:59]<kjr>just learn to program, t hen write in Java in your spare time
[12:00]<kjr>I sincerely doubt your professors think programming is all about 1 language
[12:00]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>what Kog said.
[12:00]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Appleman1234: what school do you go to?
[12:00]<kjr>but, on the off chance I'm wrong, your profs are crackwhores
[12:00]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>indeed.
[12:00]<bjv_buyfmnz>Appleman1234: you can code C# on lunux
[12:00]<bjv_buyfmnz>*linux
[12:00]<rfffgdrgwq19>I do
[12:00]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>i think i'll go grab breakfast.
[12:00]<bjv_buyfmnz>lol its late
[12:00]<rfffgdrgwq19>Gnome people ??
[12:01]<kjr>Bot_Builder: not if you're working against portions of .NET2
[12:01]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>the Gnome developers code in C#
[12:01]<rfffgdrgwq19>lol
[12:01]<rfffgdrgwq19>I prefer KDE to Gnome
[12:01]<rfffgdrgwq19>So much so that I will probably extend Monodevelop so that it has QT templates
[12:06]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>mono doesn't need more extensions dude
[12:07]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>mono needs to get off it's ass and catch up to .NET 2.0
[12:07]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>and have windows forms compatibility
[12:07]<cjmgrug>yeah.. it need swf compatibility!
[12:08]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>??
[12:08]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>swf?
[12:08]<kjr>winforms
[12:09]<rfffgdrgwq19>Project2501a: I wasn't talking about mono
[12:10]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Life in mono.
[12:10]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Kog
[12:10]<kjr>yes?
[12:11]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>who made the "Unix kernel commentary" back in the 60s?
[12:11]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>leon something
[12:12]<kjr>I assume you're talking about Leon brooks?

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