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[18:28]<rwyfcygs>Or... you could use sloccount!
[18:29]<zugvydn>sloccount?
[18:29]<zugvydn>whats that
[18:29]<zugvydn>?
[18:29]<zyccus>sloc = source lines of code
[18:30]<rwyfcygs>Significant Lines Of Code
[18:30]<zugvydn>Sexy Lines of Code
[18:31]<rwyfcygs>Or if you're posting to DWTF, Stupid Lines Of Crap
[18:32]<zugvydn>I should put more comments in my code, I barely understand any of it..
[18:32]<lcs>oh
[18:32]<lcs>divide it to meaningful functions
[18:32]<rwyfcygs>Yeah, well structured code is better than War and Peace in comments
[18:33]<lcs>yeap
[18:33]<rwyfcygs>Because when you maintain it, you don't have to edit the comments to keep things up to date...
[18:33]<zugvydn>pks: yea that's a good idea too, because I have no non-default classes or functions or methods
[18:33]<lcs>at least you do not have to write docs for obvious functions like bool isElementOk(Element e)
[18:34]<lcs>(unless you have strange ways of determining if e is OK ;p)
[18:34]<rwyfcygs>I always HATE seeing standard method header comments that have great big changelogs with dates and authors in
[18:34]<lcs>awilkins: yeap, people invented changelog files for that
[18:35]<kuggys>Version control tools!
[18:35]<rwyfcygs>And if the code was well structured, you wouldn't need comments like "Function X now requires you to flipwibble the fnoonar"
[18:35]<lcs>hehehe
[18:35]<rwyfcygs>Absolutely ; "svn blame"
[18:35]<lcs>flipwibble the fnoonar <- good one
[18:35]<lcs>:>
[18:36]<su2zgzzc>My lesson learned: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=67914
[18:42]<znmnzz_>rehi
[18:42]<znmnzz_>hi aqd!!!!!!
[18:42]<znmnzz_>!!!!!!!!
[18:42]<znmnzz_>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:42]<znmnzz_>what's up?
[18:43]<zugvydn>is there anyway to convert a windows forms app into a web aspx app
[18:43]<zugvydn>?
[18:44]<afd>redear_: !!!!
[18:44]<afd>redear_: http://www.aqd.ath.cx/pictures/National%20Geographic%20Wallpapers%20Collection%202000%20-%202006/2002/wallpaper_lg.1.3.jpg
[18:44]<afd>liquid sent me :P
[18:44]<ycnr><3
[18:45]<afd>hi ikea!
[18:45]<afd>ah
[18:45]<22vnax>Is there a way with IIS to modify the directory listing header/footer?
[18:45]<afd>i should upload them to flicker ;)
[18:45]<afd>bbtech: yes
[18:45]<afd>in IIS you can choose HEADER.html i think
[18:46]<znmnzz_>runtime: you mean like click a button and a converter converts the winform into asp.net or vise versa?
[18:47]<znmnzz_>AqD: very nice :)
[18:47]<zyccus>subanark: I don't see a delegate
[18:47]<zugvydn>redear: Yes, something like that..
[18:47]<znmnzz_>runtime: it depends on how the application was created
[18:47]<znmnzz_>runtime: but it shouldn't be that straight forward
[18:47]<su2zgzzc>rikkus: if you have a delegate in the ... you would have to be careful
[18:48]<znmnzz_>the way the two were designed, it is suppose to be relatively simple, if you design toward that need
[18:48]<znmnzz_>but a lot of asp.net sites are complicated because they use fun things like ajax (atlas), or they add to the base experience (inherit and extend all base web controls), same with the winform side
[18:49]<znmnzz_>so those enhancements will be problematic to convert, and you will have to write the equivalent (or not, depends on the situation)
[18:49]<znmnzz_>web gui is not win gui <- short answer
[18:49]<afd>redear_: it's some cute animal live in liquid's place :P
[18:49]<znmnzz_>cool
[18:50]<znmnzz_>runtime: hey thought i'd ask, why do you ask?
[18:50]<znmnzz_>do you have an asp.net site that needs to be converted into an winforms app?
[18:50]<zugvydn>redear: the opposite
[18:50]<znmnzz_>what does the app do now?
[18:51]<znmnzz_>like your data access code, if it's tiered (sort of in the spirit of Expert Business Objects for C# 2005 or previous edition), you won't have to change a line
[18:51]<znmnzz_>and if you do the business objects right, you don't have to change a line of that either
[18:52]<zugvydn>redear: There's a guy who I'm giving my app to, but he has Linux. He could use Mono, but he would prefer not to install Mono, and so I want to make it asp.net and host it
[18:52]<znmnzz_>it's the GUI code
[18:52]<znmnzz_>ah
[18:52]<znmnzz_>yeah how is winforms on mono anyhow?
[18:52]<znmnzz_>have you done a test?
[18:52]<zugvydn>redear: Its a simple app, so under normal circumstances I would simply rewrite it in Java, but I uninstalled Java Studio Creator..
[18:52]<zugvydn>and eclippse
[18:52]<znmnzz_>i had it set up in no time last weekend, took 2 hours and i took my time
[18:53]<zugvydn>redear_: Java Studio Creator?
[18:53]<znmnzz_>i had CentOS 4.3 up in VMware guest OS, updated it, and then did the mono installer off of Novell
[18:53]<zugvydn>redear_: Mono?
[18:53]<znmnzz_>runtime: no, mono
[18:53]<znmnzz_>yes
[18:53]<zugvydn>okay
[18:53]<zugvydn>well does a webform converter exist?
[18:53]<znmnzz_>runtime: wow you are going to rewrite in Java? maybe Mainsoft's free converter is better for your need, and save you time
[18:53]<znmnzz_>actually i don't know if it's free anymore
[18:54]<zugvydn>redear_: Can you give me the link?
[18:54]<znmnzz_>Mainsoft and the Ximian team worked together to map .net foundation classes to java's foundation classes
[18:54]<znmnzz_>mainsoft.com
[18:54]<znmnzz_>I think Vault (Eric Sink's revision control system) used it to good effect
[18:54]<znmnzz_>actually i think the version usede by Eric does cost money
[18:55]<znmnzz_>...
[18:55]<znmnzz_>I don't know how much Eric paid
[18:55]<znmnzz_>(don't worry I am not on first name basis with Eric) *wink*
[18:56]<zugvydn>readear_: I think I found a C# to Java converter...
[18:56]<lcs>huh
[18:56]<znmnzz_>runtime: well, if quality or answerability is important
[18:56]<lcs>with the windows form support? :>
[18:57]<zugvydn>pks: I think..not sure..
[18:57]<znmnzz_>you might want a reputable vendor such as Mainsoft
[18:57]<znmnzz_>http://dev.mainsoft.com/Default.aspx?tabid=133
[18:57]<su2zgzzc>I'm sure you could map Windows forms to SWT :P
[18:57]<lcs>yeah
[18:57]<lcs>otherwise mono would have windows form support alrady
[18:57]<lcs>;p
[18:57]<znmnzz_>howz Novell doing?
[18:58]<znmnzz_>they say they are in the linux business, but they haven't made a cent off of me and i use linux

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