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[00:00]<dyvaxnfja>JustinC: fair enough, i'd at least like to learn *why* it's tough....
[00:00]<kjr>JustinC: what does his plugin DO though
[00:00]<kjr>bleh, actually... mitcheloc what's your plugin do
[00:00]<dyvaxnfja>I've already got everything else working in explorer using .net, just this last IPC stuff
[00:00]<zj2-wzc>[BAF64]: I would probably search for a regex to clean up the text then, I know they are out their, we had one in our code at some point
[00:00]<[baf79]>rob-wrk, ok
[00:00]<dyvaxnfja>Kog: it's similar to WMP & itune's deskband
[00:01]<dyvaxnfja>It's a control placed on the windows task bar....
[00:01]<kjr>http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=297633
[00:01]<kjr>odd
[00:01]<kjr>(and yes, that's in C# supposedly)
[00:02]<dyvaxnfja>Whats so odd about that?
[00:02]<kjr>it's odd that no one tossed you that URL heh
[00:02]<rxrcr>mitcheloc, oh sweet. I saw a codeproject article addressing that, was interested in how it worked
[00:03]<kjr>chaka: http://www.codeproject.com/atl/ietoolbartutorial.asp ?
[00:03]<dyvaxnfja>Kog: what good would someone tossing me that url have done?
[00:03]<rxrcr>Kog, likely
[00:04]<kjr>mitcheloc: if someone's already written an implementation, and you're struggling, I'd imagine you could take a look and understand things that previously eluded you...
[00:04]<dyvaxnfja>My implementation is already passed the level of their example, I'm even using some dll injection
[00:04]<kjr>ok, well there you go
[00:05]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: o you're actually doing your own DLL injection?
[00:05]<jusvygc>yeah shit no way .NET loads :P I'm suprirsed it doesn't insta-crash
[00:05]<jusvygc>I guess some smart people made that loader crap
[00:05]<kjr>JustinC: ask chaka about it... he's been having fun
[00:05]<jusvygc>yeah he's told me a little about how much he's working
[00:06]<dyvaxnfja>Well, those examples only get you so far, making something polished from them is another story
[00:06]<kjr>mitcheloc: yes, but it sounded to me like you weren't at a working base product
[00:07]<zj2-wzc>karim^: what error do you get?
[00:07]<kjr>probably a typing error
[00:08]<kjr>JustinC: oddly enough I might be getting a job writing C# soon
[00:08]<zj2-wzc>Seems like aPages[num] = would mean aPages[num] is of type Match or Match collection (I forget what .Matches returns)
[00:08]<kjr>JustinC: being on the releng team
[00:08]<kjr>JustinC: one of the first tasks would be versioning stored procs against MSSQL
[00:09]<zj2-wzc>karim^: thats a pretty clear error message. Read the docs on .Matches I don't think it returns what you think it does
[00:09]<kjr>rob-wrk: see, typing error ;)
[00:09]<zj2-wzc>PEBKAC ;)
[00:10]<kjr>PEBKAC!
[00:14]<mjzymygo>hi
[00:14]<zj2-wzc>karim^: yes, but not as a string. which is what you are trying to do. it returns a MatchCollection, just like the error says. and aPages is a string[] I am assuming which means you are trying to fit a square peg in a small round hole. ;)
[00:15]<zugvydn>Hey is delphi multi-platform compatible?
[00:18]<zj2-wzc>runtime: I doubt it, but since its at least based on pascal it might be. I doubt the GUI stuff is though
[00:18]<zugvydn>rob-wrk: Okay thanks
[00:19]<pz2>pascal... haven't touched that in 12 years
[00:19]<zugvydn>rob-wrk: so the only multi-platform languages with GUI's are Java and C++ (w/ a grapics library)?
[00:19]<kjr>there's Kylix for linux/unix
[00:20]<zugvydn>Kog: multiplatform meaning for Mac, Linux/Unix, and Windows
[00:20]<kjr>runtime: I think you use Delphi for windows, Kylix for other plats
[00:21]<mjzymygo>yo kog. hows the ultra-skilled boss these days?
[00:22]<kjr>fucking awesome
[00:22]<mjzymygo>LOL
[00:22]<mjzymygo>still a sore subject huh?
[00:22]<kjr>no, not sore, he's just fucking awesome
[00:23]<kjr>qua?
[00:25]<mjzymygo>been much fun in here since I was last around?
[00:25]<kjr>not really.. you missed a conversation on the nature of Named Pipes
[00:26]<mjzymygo>whooo
[00:26]<mjzymygo>exciting
[00:27]<kjr>owned.
[00:28]<mjzymygo>so... dare I ask... what was the outcome of this... exciting... conversation?
[00:28]<2fc2yzm> hello im a .net programmer moving from win to os x is there anyway to do forms with DotGNU?
[00:28]<2fc2yzm> i was told dotgnu had gtk# in it but apparently i was told wrong
[00:28]<kjr>Moridin8: JustinC still doesn't believe me that named pipes are supposed to behave in a certain manner, and insists on calling them "Unix named pipes"
[00:28]<mjzymygo>uhuh
[00:29]<pz2>I quoted what wikipedia had to say on the subject and was summarily ignored
[00:29]<jusvygc>I don't insist on anything. I was calling them "Unix named pipes" to distinguish them from "Windows named pipes"
[00:29]<jusvygc>I'm not interested in some kind of name-based religious war.
[00:29]<jusvygc>I use Windows named pipes when I need IPC, and that's all I care about.
[00:29]<2fc2yzm>the wiki is down why am i ignored
[00:29]<2fc2yzm>:-\
[00:29]<kjr>frb: oh, what was the quote?
[00:30]<dyvaxnfja>JustinC: someone just gave me a pointer that it might be fixable by putting my assembly in the GAC
[00:30]<pz2>In Windows, the design of named pipes is biased towards client-server communication, and they work much like sockets: other than the usual read and write operations, Windows named pipes also support an explicit "passive" mode for server applications (compare: Unix domain sockets). Windows 95 supports named pipe clients, Windows NT based systems can also be servers.
[00:30]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: I wouldn't rule it out.
[00:30]<kjr>frb: that's odd, 95 doesn't support named pipes at all
[00:30]<kjr>frb: it does support anonymous pipes
[00:31]<pz2>meh, go correct wikipedia then, I know nossing
[00:31]<jusvygc>Kog: It might have been added in a SP...
[00:31]<jusvygc>hmmm
[00:31]<kjr>JustinC: to 95? if it was, I'd have known about it heh
[00:31]<jusvygc>Sorry Kog, microsoft.com claims Windows 95 does support named pipes :p
[00:31]<jusvygc>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/rk32_nar.mspx?mfr=true
[00:31]<kjr>JustinC: that's odd, when I went to read I got back no WME, 98/95 or 3.11 support
[00:31]<jusvygc>"A network redirector provides mechanisms to locate, open, read, write, and delete files and submit print jobs. It also makes available application services such as named pipes and mailslots"
[00:31]<jusvygc>well, you're wrong.
[00:32]<jusvygc>about general support, that is
[00:32]<kjr>ok, so Windows 95 supports named pipes, good to know
[00:32]<jusvygc>For what it's worth, I remember 9x not having support too.
[00:32]<jusvygc>For named pipes.
[00:32]<jusvygc>Let's find out.
[00:32]<jusvygc>Moridin8: do you care?
[00:32]<mjzymygo>errr...
[00:33]<jusvygc>See, I don't care either... Kog brought this up again =P
[00:33]<mjzymygo>no.
[00:33]<mjzymygo>I don't care
[00:33]<jusvygc>I was just having a nice talk with someone about how to solve their problem of IPC on Windows
[00:33]<jusvygc>then Kog turned it into some kind of religious war abou whether Win32 named pipes are REAL named pipes :P
[00:33]<kjr>it's not religious
[00:33]<kjr>did you see me go "AND JEEEEZUS WANTS NAMED PIPES THAT DO (insert jesus stuff here)"
[00:34]<jusvygc>any argument that goes "X is not the REAL Y because (arbitrary constraints that could easily be discarded, and things could be done another equally valid way)" is a religious argument :P
[00:35]<jusvygc>I was just tying to help some guy, and you jump down my throat about how Win32 named pipes shouldn't be called named pipes ebcause they're not named pipes

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