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[14:50]<drygq>yeah.. O_o
[14:50]<sxyg-rr>tired
[14:51]<sxyg-rr>^:50am here XD
[14:51]<sxyg-rr>6:50*
[14:52]<r2sggag>if a class inherits IDisposable, but declares the Dispose() method protected, is it useless to wrap the object into a using block?
[14:52]<sxyg-rr>i have not fucked with interfaces using those
[15:04]<drygq>my program only works in debugmode (while i step)
[15:04]<drygq>unbelievable.. (time for f00d)
[15:13]<sygn_>hmm someone tried mono under linux?
[15:16]<r2sggag>yes
[15:18]<sygn_>absence how is it? anything for a novice to try?
[15:19]<r2sggag>graphical user interfaces aside, it's pretty much the same as in windows
[15:21]<r2sggag>i haven't tried using System.Windows.Forms, but gtk works well enough for simple stuff (the docs are a bit skimpy, so you'll probably be pulling out hair if you try something advanced)
[15:23]<sygn_>hehe
[15:23]<sygn_>thanks for info btw
[15:24]<sygn_>watching some screens :p
[15:25]<sygn_>btw if ur havent noticed, version 1.1.7 is available
[15:25]<sygn_>1.1.17*
[15:27]<r2sggag>i just use whatever version comes trickling from the distro updater ;)
[15:29]<sygn_>hehe
[15:39]<sxyg-rr>I hate mono :)
[15:39]<sxyg-rr>i hate GTK#
[15:39]<sxyg-rr>stupid gridtable designing
[15:40]<sxyg-rr>the only thing that is worth of mono is the command line lol
[15:40]<gruss_zoo><joda>Hate leads to blindness, blindness leads to bumbing into things, bumbing into things leads to interesting relationships, interesting relationships lead to love. keep up the mono-gtk programming because it is your way to love</joda>
[15:42]<r2sggag>gridtable?
[15:42]<sxyg-rr>yeah you have to design a mono app with tables
[15:43]<r2sggag>a table is just one of the available packing methods
[15:46]<sxyg-rr>and i hate it
[15:46]<r2sggag>the packing?
[15:55]<rrrdjdtxyrr>Is there a standard component for IMAP connections?
[16:27]<cjmgrug>where the fuck is everybody!!!!????
[16:29]<gruss_zoo>kidnapped by aliens
[16:35]<dgndj>what does one define with "public static implicit operator" ??
[16:37]<zugvydn>hello everyone
[16:38]<zugvydn>how do i change the file path
[16:38]<zugvydn>of a file
[16:38]<zugvydn>a form
[16:39]<zugvydn>for example, I moved form1, is it possible to change the location of it in Visual Studio?
[16:44]<zugvydn>is anyone there..
[16:45]<zugvydn>awilkins: ?
[16:45]<zugvydn>smellyhippy?
[16:49]<rrrdjdtxyrr>Seems very quiet round here today.
[17:02]<drygq>im writing something to a textbox with a switch case...... realy weird..
[17:02]<drygq>in debugging mode (when i step), text is added without problems
[17:03]<drygq>'normal runtime' nothing gets added to the textbox :S
[17:03]<dgndj>main2: it probably gets added, but then the textbox is cleared seconds after
[17:06]<drygq>but why doesnt this happen when i step then
[17:12]<dgndj>main2, because you're stepping
[17:12]<rrrdjdtxyrr>because you haven't stepped to the bit that clears it yet?
[17:12]<dgndj>exactly
[17:17]<dyguw>For an application that by using modules will be able to manage everything; employees, salaries, money, sales, support, invoices, etc. What should be the base for the GUI design? MDI? SDI? Big treeview to the left with sections? Big scrollable outlook style to the left for navigation? MDI style? With a menu at the top that opens sub windows for each section.
[17:18]<rrrdjdtxyrr>I'd have thought the choice would be yours there...
[17:19]<rrrdjdtxyrr>Whatever works best for the people who will be using it?
[17:19]<dgndj>minux: it's a matter of taste, if you want science do usability testing on all of those
[17:19]<dyguw>I ain't got the freakin money to do usability testing :P
[17:19]<rrrdjdtxyrr>Mock up a couple of things and ask a couple of people to see what's best...
[17:20]<dyguw>Hmm, I'll see to that.
[17:20]<dyguw>Shouldn't be that hard.
[17:20]<rrrdjdtxyrr>Or make them and try them yourself and see which works best?
[17:20]<dyguw>Perhaps. :)
[17:20]<dyguw>Btw do you have any other solutions that I didn't include?
[17:20]<drygq>mnemo & RandomThing: when im done stepping
[17:20]<drygq>i press F5 to continue
[17:21]<drygq>but it aint cleared then, so please explain me.. why is this happening
[17:21]<dyguw>food now,brb
[17:25]<rrrdjdtxyrr>main2: is there any chance you're doing something different whilst stepping so the code is taking a different execution path and missing something?
[17:29]<drygq>no
[17:29]<drygq>well, pressing f11.. is that off the path?
[17:29]<rrrdjdtxyrr>main2: just a random suggestion, but try adding a MessageBox or something after each section is added so that you can see if it's added during normal running
[18:04]<r2sggag>if a class inherits IDisposable, but declares the Dispose() method protected, is it useless to wrap the object into a using block?
[18:08]<cjmgrug>good question.
[18:37]<cjmgrug>anybody here/
[18:43]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=68005
[18:43]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>nm
[18:43]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>needed to remove ()'s
[18:47]<sxyg-rr>and properly align the braces
[18:50]<rrn>can ulong have decimals?
[18:51]<r2sggag>not unless you just imagine they're there (fixed point)
[18:51]<rrn>if i need to make really big numbers ( > 4 billion ) but with decimals, what should i do then?
[18:52]<sxyg-rr>why would you need that for?
[18:53]<rrn>i'm importing data from a game (eve online) where the prices can go exceed 4 billion, and have decimals.
[18:54]<sxyg-rr>well i think decimal can have up to 32 digits or is that decimal places
[18:55]<sxyg-rr>but decimals are slow
[18:55]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>when i make a new thread and pass in the call back function to use, is there any way i can also pass in paramters
[18:55]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>to the call back function
[18:56]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>Thread spyThread = new Thread(new ThreadStart(KeyListen(foo,bar));
[18:56]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>where KeyListen is name of callback function
[18:56]<sxyg-rr>i have no idea sorry :(
[18:57]<r2sggag>age, how many digits?
[19:02]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>n\m
[19:02]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>ill just make it non static
[19:14]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>hi, if i make a new form and say .Showform(), the new form shows up, but i cant control the other form. i want to be able to control both at the same time. is this also known as MDI?
[19:21]<rrrdjdtxyrr>what happens if you try .showdialog() ?
[19:27]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>not Showform
[19:27]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>Showdialog
[19:27]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>yeah, i DONT want ShowDialog
[19:27]<wxrvs_yg_r_grdn>i lose control of the other form when i use that
[19:39]<rrrdjdtxyrr>just show() then?
[19:40]<sxyg-rr>god how much I hate threading :'(

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