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[00:35]<kjr>it takes two to tango
[00:35]<jusvygc>ill be the girl
[00:36]<pz2>never argue with a fool, no one can tell the difference
[00:37]<lusxecxqc7>lol
[00:37]<kjr>frb: but therein lies the rub, because I'm sure everyone who thinks everyone else is a fool will never know
[00:38]<pz2>it would create a lot less arguments
[00:38]<dyvaxnfja>JustinC: he was write, the ipc stuff works now
[00:38]<dyvaxnfja>* right
[00:38]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: RPC IPC?
[00:38]<dyvaxnfja>The IPC/Remoting I've been using all along, all I did was gacutil the assemblies....
[00:38]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: That's interesting that you needed to put it into the GAC...... and it doesn't make sense. If you added a reference into the project directly (as I suggested earlier), it should also work if putting it in the GAC does.
[00:39]<dyvaxnfja>JustinC: I don't know how to explain this properly, but in a way it makes sense....
[00:39]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: Well, it depends on the way your application is deployed
[00:39]<dyvaxnfja>It's not AssemblyA that needed the reference, my guess is that AssemblyB couldn't find itself....
[00:40]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: If you're sending some class C over RPC, then both assemblies need to have that class...
[00:40]<dyvaxnfja>JustinC: that class C was stored in "AssemblyShared.dll" which both have a referece to
[00:41]<jusvygc>mitcheloc: And you added ASsemblyShared.dll to the GAC, or the .EXE?
[00:42]<dyvaxnfja>AssemblyB & AssemblyShared
[00:42]<dyvaxnfja>both
[00:42]<jusvygc>The class that's being remoted is in AssemblyShared?
[00:43]<dyvaxnfja>Not technically, it's an Interface
[00:43]<dyvaxnfja>and the class in AssemblyB implements the interface in AssemblyShared
[00:44]<lusxecxqc7>I am looking for a few really good places to learn ASP.NET because I need to develop a web part for sharepoint really soon...and I was directed here
[00:44]<lusxecxqc7>...I am assuming you use ASP.NET for web parts
[00:44]<pz2>have you started at www.asp.net yet?
[00:44]<jusvygc>pushECX2k6: the best place to start would be with an online tutorial
[00:45]<pz2>learnvisualstudio.net has a specific tutorial movie on using webparts
[00:45]<lusxecxqc7>frb: lol nope, iddn't know there was a www.asp.net, I googled asp.net and web part and sharepoint...never saw www.asp.net
[00:46]<lusxecxqc7>can I make a web part with Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition?
[00:46]<jusvygc>pushECX2k6: that's odd, ASP.NET is the first google hit for a search on ASP.NET
[00:46]<jusvygc>I'd be surprised to see a screenshot of your Google results if you really don't see it in your list.
[00:46]<lusxecxqc7>lol
[00:46]<lusxecxqc7>I swear I didn't, those terms were all in one serach btw
[00:47]<lusxecxqc7>search*
[00:48]<lusxecxqc7>oh, I might have stuck tutorial in there too
[00:48]<lusxecxqc7>lol
[00:48]<lusxecxqc7>anyways, thanks a lot
[00:50]<[baf79]>jef
[00:51]<lusxecxqc7>can Visual Studio 2005 do .NET? I looked through the uh....start....things, the environments and i couldn't find anything for .NET
[00:52]<lusxecxqc7>unless I just wasn't looking hard enough
[00:54]<mjzymygo>>_<
[00:54]<mjzymygo>can VS2k5 do .NET
[00:55]<mjzymygo>erm...
[00:56]<lusxecxqc7>...can it?
[00:56]<mjzymygo>Dunno. can it?
[00:56]<lusxecxqc7>ooo, it can
[00:56]<mjzymygo>>_<
[00:58]<mgglslrrgrgv>hey guys, i got the code for a shell namespace extension here "http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/01/WindowsShell/default.aspx#edupdate" and it compiles but im completly missing something, how do i use it? i need to load it into windows somehow
[01:18]<fzzrjs>how do you create a unique temp directory with c#?
[01:23]<pz2>crap, I broke it
[01:24]<gzup>um make the name a guid is one way
[01:24]<gzup>make another name with rand chars and check if exists
[01:26]<sfnnc>largos: yup, just random that crap and check for existence
[01:26]<fzzrjs>ugh
[01:26]<fzzrjs>well, programming wouldn't be fun if we didn't have to fix bizzare threading problems and race conditions every once in a while..
[01:27]<pz2>that's asking for a race condition
[01:27]<fzzrjs>may as well do it that way
[01:27]<pz2>there has to be a way
[01:27]<fzzrjs>yeah.
[01:27]<fzzrjs>that's the solution offered up on the MS forums, unfortunately
[01:27]<fzzrjs>(which doesn't bode well...)
[01:29]<pz2>write a component using C's mkstemp, and call that from C#!
[01:30]<txnjzd>use timestamp + thread id?
[01:30]<zj2-wzc>largos: what do you need a unique temp directory for?
[01:31]<fzzrjs>rob-wrk: storing files temporarily?
[01:31]<zj2-wzc>will the temp files need dynamic names too?
[01:32]<fzzrjs>their names don't matter
[01:32]<fzzrjs>well
[01:32]<fzzrjs>the reason I can't just use unique names and put everything in the system temp dir is that I don't have controll over all the file names
[01:33]<pz2>windows seems to always create hidden {UUID} folders
[01:33]<fzzrjs>3 of the files will always have the same name (they're generated by an external program I'm invoking -- I specify the path they are stored in, but not their names)
[01:34]<vynvyv>Kog are you there?
[01:34]<kjr>yes
[01:34]<vynvyv>do you know how to connect to an oracle database in .net?
[01:35]<vynvyv>i made an app that does it
[01:35]<vynvyv>and tried to send it to someone else and it didn't work at all
[01:35]<kjr>ah
[01:35]<kjr>you probably have some ODBC set up
[01:35]<vynvyv>i'm using something called ODP.NET
[01:37]<kjr>dunno, never use oracle
[01:37]<kjr>dunno why people think I seem to know anything heh
[01:39]<vynvyv>someone told me you did, i forget who
[01:39]<vynvyv>ok thanks
[01:39]<kjr>rob-wrk I believe
[01:43]<zj2-wzc>huh?
[01:45]<vynvyv>the .net framework doesn't get automatically installed from windows update?
[01:46]<gzup>it can, i just dont think its a critical update, therefore user preference
[01:46]<zyjvnz>Gruf i think it was a critical update
[01:46]<zyjvnz>at least the first version
[01:46]<vynvyv>i have the exception here
[01:47]<vynvyv>http://paste-bin.com/248
[01:48]<pz2>.net 1 is a critical update
[01:48]<pz2>.net 2 is only critical if you already have it installed
[01:49]<zyjvnz>ah
[01:49]<zyjvnz>i knew 1 was, wasnt sure what the deal with 2 was
[01:49]<zyjvnz>its not hard to bundle the .net framework with your installer anyway
[01:52]<fz1dbz>Hello, considering i know the lenght of each message im receiving under my tcp/ip server... what i want to know is, how can i properly parse the incomming streams in a way to dont loss any data ? most of my chunks get like splitted so i need a way to get all then together again....
[01:52]<fz1dbz>is there any good way for it ?
[01:58]<jusvygc>TCP guarantees no data loss
[01:58]<jusvygc>your connection will close or all the data will arrive







