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[07:47]<lxzjsvd>bytes are overrated
[07:47]<jusvygc>Yeah I know.
[07:47]<nnzjpfrr>oO
[07:47]<jusvygc>Who needs to count past 1?
[07:47]<2j2>how old are you JustinC
[07:47]<frsdgmd[frlld]>JustinC: I think I understand, but is the reason that int has to be a certain bit size all the time that you have to be able to run on a virtual machine?
[07:47]<2j2>just out of curiousity
[07:48]<jusvygc>I just turned 15.
[07:48]<2j2>figures as much k
[07:48]<jusvygc>bob: I'm not really 15 =P
[07:48]<2j2>heh
[07:48]<2j2>23?
[07:48]<2j2>:P
[07:48]<jusvygc>21 :P
[07:48]<2j2>ah
[07:48]<jusvygc>I would have to be some kind of prodigy to get a job at MS at age 15, haha
[07:49]<nnzjpfrr>you're with microsoft?
[07:49]<2j2>to be on the Microsoft team itself, yeah, but to work for microsoft, nah
[07:49]<jusvygc>Yeah
[07:49]<2j2>you can be 15 and work for microsoft
[07:49]<jusvygc>Well, I was. I had an internship this summer
[07:49]<nnzjpfrr>tell your boss that his operating systems suck and the software on it even more...
[07:49]<jusvygc>I have a year of school left
[07:49]<2j2>ha
[07:49]<2j2>zeroflag: go code your C# on mono :)
[07:49]<2j2>lol
[07:49]<jusvygc>zeroflag: My boss would totally agree with you... he thinks Vista is a complete disaster :p
[07:50]<2j2>its a "pretty" disaster though
[07:50]<2j2>rofl
[07:50]<jusvygc>I think XP is pretty good though. No complaints there..
[07:50]<nnzjpfrr>not just vista.
[07:50]<nnzjpfrr>I run windows xp 64
[07:50]<2j2>zeroflag: wanna bash windows? make it yourself :D
[07:50]<nnzjpfrr>and it is a disaster.
[07:50]<jusvygc>Yeah I think all that effort on Vista is a waste of time. I turn off themes on WIndows XP as it is ^_^
[07:50]<nnzjpfrr>but I run it only for the one reason...
[07:50]<jusvygc>Porn?
[07:50]<2j2>nah it isn't, i run windows x64 with about 120 apps, and like 12 games, so your just talking out your ass
[07:50]<frsdgmd[frlld]>JustinC: actually then again, .Net does just in time compiling, so shouldn't it be able to determine what an "int" is?
[07:50]<nnzjpfrr>and that is windows xp 32 was unable to boot on my hardware...
[07:51]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: .NET doesn't have the concept of int... it only has specific-sized integers
[07:51]<2j2>bitch at hardware companies for not producing 64-bit compliant device drivers, don't bitch at microsoft
[07:51]<2j2>not their job
[07:51]<jusvygc>C# is implemented-in-terms-of .NET
[07:51]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: Are you familiar with assembly language of any sort, or know what registers are?
[07:51]<nnzjpfrr>the drivers are fine.
[07:51]<jusvygc>hah that's the funniest thing
[07:51]<nnzjpfrr>in fact nvidia drivers for 64bit are better than the 32bit ones...
[07:51]<frsdgmd[frlld]>JustinC: yes, I've done some assembly hacking
[07:51]<jusvygc>sooo many people blame MS for making a "buggy OS' when 99% of the time it's drivers
[07:51]<nnzjpfrr>just the operating system sucks...
[07:51]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: Alright, well think of compiling C++
[07:51]<nnzjpfrr>with 300MB of ram flat on boot.
[07:52]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: What happens when you compile a function C++ that returns a value? Let's say you're using __fastcall
[07:52]<2j2>zeroflag: 150MB of ram flat on boot here
[07:52]<2j2>i guess its the person who configured it huh
[07:52]<2j2>P
[07:52]<nnzjpfrr>bob: you probably don't have a 64bit system. >_<
[07:52]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: parameters and return values don't use *variables* anymore, they use registers
[07:52]<2j2>:P
[07:52]<2j2>yeah
[07:52]<2j2>AMD 5000+ X2
[07:52]<nnzjpfrr>go figure...
[07:52]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: So when you compile code, the entire notion of "variables" disappears. all you have is registers
[07:52]<2j2>2GB of ram
[07:52]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: It's a little bit like that with the .NET type system. There is no `int' when you compile, only Int32
[07:52]<nnzjpfrr>64bit pointers = 2 * 32bit pointers...
[07:52]<2j2>5000+ is WAY cheaper than a core 2 duo, so why buy a core 2 duo...
[07:52]<2j2>core 2 duo = 60% more expensive, and it is NOT 60% more efficient
[07:52]<2j2>price does not mach up
[07:52]<jusvygc>zeroflag: That might not necessarily be true. Virtual memory systems make it way mroe complicated..
[07:52]<2j2>match*
[07:52]<nnzjpfrr>uhm, core2 duo is FASTER and CHEAPER?
[07:53]<2j2>it isn't cheaper
[07:53]<2j2>i bought my cpu for $312
[07:53]<nnzjpfrr>the last time I checked it was...
[07:53]<2j2>check again
[07:53]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: Consider some void f(int n) { ... }
[07:53]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: "n" is a variable inside C++. But once you compile it, n is gone.
[07:53]<jusvygc>lasindi[lappy]: You have a stack entry in normal calling conventions, or a register in __fastcall.
[07:53]<nnzjpfrr>JustinC: it's a FACT that I have 300mb of ram usage at boot...
[07:53]<2j2>its a FACT that you didnt configure your system worth a shit
[07:54]<nnzjpfrr>uhm, no.
[07:54]<2j2>its a FACT that your a troll and a windows basher becuase you have no fucking clue what you are doing
[07:54]<nnzjpfrr>I just turned of all services that I don't know and I optimized it for speed...
[07:54]<2j2>its a FACT that mine uses 150MB of ram on startup
[07:54]<jusvygc>everyone is a windows basher nowadays
[07:54]<nnzjpfrr>so what are you refering to?
[07:54]<vgfgwyajg>On Monday September 4, 2006, Steve Irwin was killed by a Stingray barb that punctured his chest, whilst filming a documentary off the Low Isles, Queensland.
[07:54]<2j2>haha^^
[07:54]<nnzjpfrr>bob: you're an ignorant snob. please shut the fuck up.
[07:54]<2j2>yeah, ok
[07:54]<jusvygc>guys can't we all be friends?
[07:54]<2j2>nah
[07:54]<jusvygc>please :(
[07:54]<2j2>not with this asshole
[07:54]<2j2>talk's out his ass
[07:55]<2j2>"omfg windows sux, linux is so leet!"
[07:55]<jusvygc>I've hear MSFT bashers almost every day... you just have to learn to get used to it.
[07:55]<jusvygc>People just really really odn't like MSFT, most of the time for no reason.

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