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[08:10]<wryvyrr>for colorful console ^^
[08:10]<drvnly2>so the console VT's are using vga modes?
[08:11]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: well, yes ... but there are a lot of framebuffer drivers for cards like matrox, nvidia (maybe sis, too) that speed up specific cards
[08:11]<wryvyrr>those then can do practically any mode
[08:12]<drvnly2>i just logged into one of my text concoles and did ls -c so i got color
[08:12]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: well the normal text console can do colors already, by means of SVGA
[08:12]<drvnly2>are most of our video cards now svga?
[08:13]<wryvyrr>it has been a long time that I have seen a card that is not :))
[08:13]<drvnly2>so the comand i put into grub ie kernel option vga=0x31a that looks like it is picking a vga mode
[08:13]<wryvyrr>yes
[08:14]<wryvyrr>there is a FrameBuffer HOWTO
[08:14]<drvnly2>so that is my svga card being backward compatible with vga?
[08:14]<wryvyrr>it explains what values you can use there if you have a VESA framebuffer
[08:14]<drvnly2>ahh thanks
[08:14]<wryvyrr>its a short table, but the numbers are rather odd
[08:16]<wryvyrr>IT HAS A GUI :OOO
[08:16]<zun_xjusn>it has for years
[08:17]<wryvyrr>it looks like a windows app ://
[08:17]<drvnly2>ahh thanks waiting: i just found the framebuffer howto on the web
[08:17]<zun_xjusn>no different than being in a colsole though
[08:17]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: np, if you give me lspci of your VGA card, maybe we find a framebuffer driver
[08:17]<drvnly2>i dont understand much about video cards and graphics
[08:18]<zun_xjusn>you run knoppix and it just works
[08:18]<zun_xjusn>copy its config files to debian and you kinda-ok
[08:18]<drvnly2>how do i give you lspci of my vga card?
[08:18]<zun_xjusn>www.pastebin.com
[08:19]<svzguggz>DaveLib: /exec -o lspci -v | grep -i vga
[08:19]<zun_xjusn>waitor! there is a hare in my soup!
[08:19]<zun_xjusn>I asked for two!
[08:20]<wryvyrr>=:)
[08:20]<drvnly2>thanks streuner
[08:21]<zun_xjusn>why wont aptitide install things that I can apt-get ?
[08:22]<zun_xjusn>its jucase numlock isn't down
[08:22]<drvnly2>ok i got one line from that command can i paste it here?
[08:23]<zun_xjusn>sure
[08:23]<drvnly2>0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX/741/M741/760/M760 PCI/AGP (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[08:23]<zun_xjusn>but you have to type it out :)
[08:23]<drvnly2>oops too late :)
[08:23]<zun_xjusn>oh youda just made a typo anyhow
[08:23]<zun_xjusn>ok, now the big question
[08:23]<zun_xjusn>why did you tell us that
[08:24]<drvnly2>waiting said we could look for a framebuffer for it using that
[08:24]<drvnly2>*now if someone would just tell me what a framebuffer is... * :)
[08:25]<zun_xjusn>uh ho,m it wants to remove gnumeric
[08:25]<drvnly2>tho i like the concoles i got by vga=0x31a
[08:25]<ow0f0-0ff>frame | buffer
[08:25]<zun_xjusn>a framebuffer stops any flashing
[08:27]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: maybe you dig this: http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/linux-pvr.en.cms
[08:28]<drvnly2>that kernel option vga=0x31a gave me small font in the boot screen and text consoles compared to much larger original fonts in the default sarge
[08:28]<drvnly2>thanks waiting i will look at that
[08:30]<drvnly2>can i change font size like that interactively during a shell session with a command? ie change for the current vt
[08:31]<kzddjzn>hi guys, i have apache2 running on sarge but i get a forbidden error when i try to access /~user and the directory doesn't have any index.html
[08:31]<kzddjzn>how can i make it so that it lists the directory contents
[08:31]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: sure
[08:31]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: consolechars -f /usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-08.psf.gz
[08:32]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: looks a little "pressed" tho ^^
[08:32]<zun_xjusn>Krymore, might he a better #apache question, but I think there is an option in httpd.conf
[08:32]<drvnly2>waiting: before i try that can i undo it back to what i had after that command?
[08:32]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: ah, must be done as root
[08:32]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: sec ...
[08:33]<myvn-j>hmm, now the question is do I want to put these two WD800JD's in my kubuntu workstation... I'm not a fan of WD SATA :(
[08:33]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: consolechars --help ; consolechars -d # should be
[08:33]<vrgj2>hello, I bought a PixelView PlayTV MPEG2 and it's TV is working (well, some channels aren't being tuned), but the radio isn't working, somebody knows some tip?
[08:33]<drvnly2>thanks waiting i will check that out
[08:33]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: -d restores the "default font"
[08:34]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: enjoy! console warriors always welcome ;D
[08:34]<myvn-j>I guess I will, but not tonight. tonight was get software raid 1 on the fileserver's boot drives night :)
[08:35]<myvn-j>crap, wrong chan, sorry
[08:35]<drvnly2>waiting i just looked at the --help i see what you say about -d
[08:36]<drvnly2>if the -d only retores a system default ie hardcoded default and not the one i put in could i get back by logging out of that vt?
[08:36]<faccau>any of you seen "include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element type" when trying to compile something against the 2.6.8-2-686 kernel headers?
[08:36]<faccau>I've google, but no real explinations of what is causing it
[08:36]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: well you can change the default
[08:37]<drvnly2>if nothing else i could always get to normal by rebooting
[08:37]<wryvyrr>DaveLib: unless you changed the default, so don't do that ^^
[08:37]<drvnly2>ok i will try stuff now
[08:37]<drvnly2>ahh damn i cant paste between X where i am in irc and the text concole
[08:38]<mz2znnzsvnz>DaveLib: I wonder if you used gpm for X... think it'd transfer the buffer?
[08:38]<myvn-j>DaveLib: could always paste to a text file, that's what I do
[08:38]<zun_xjusn>I liek aptitude cause it can downgrade, which gets me out of my messups
[08:38]<wryvyrr>rue_house: you change opinions fast ;D
[08:38]<drvnly2>ahh good idea dive-o
[08:39]<zun_xjusn>its almost the only thing I like about it
[08:39]<zun_xjusn>I'm rewindingmy system with little inncodents
[08:39]<zun_xjusn>few that is
[08:39]<zun_xjusn>ok, I didn't lose gnumeric all togethor
[08:39]<drvnly2>dabreegster i dunno X has its own paste system so replace it with gpm?
[08:39]<zun_xjusn>good
[08:40]<drvnly2>aptitude downgrades i did not know that
[08:40]<zun_xjusn>haha....hahaha
[08:40]<zun_xjusn>hahahahahahah
[08:40]<myvn-j>I just finished migrating everything on my fileserver from two 80 gig drives, two 250 gig drives, and one 120 gig drive, to the two 250s in a raid 1 and two 750s... took a lot of planning
[08:40]<zun_xjusn>kdenlive is insatlled?!?!
[08:40]<myvn-j>but it runs much cooler now :)
[08:42]<zun_xjusn>unfortunatly, its the wrong version
[08:42]<zun_xjusn>I have to find version 0.3
[08:42]<zun_xjusn>does anyone have an archive with kdenlive 0.3 ?
[08:42]<zun_xjusn>pleeeease?
[08:42]<faccau>any of you seen "include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element type" when trying to compile something against the 2.6.8-2-686 kernel headers?
[08:43]<wryvyrr>lokkju: is there any "asm-i386.h not found" error before it?

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