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[02:55]<mlcr>i heard gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg
[02:55]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>lol more than 2 of i have 16
[02:56]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!kernel
[02:56]<mlcr>Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.6, prepatch: 2.6.18-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-rc1-mm2
[02:56]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!kbuild
[02:56]<mlcr>kbuild is, like, a package you need, but can't get, trust me...
[02:56]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!make-kpkg
[02:56]<mlcr>make-kpkg is probably the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra>
[02:57]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!build-essencials
[02:57]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!build-essentials
[02:57]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!build-essential
[02:57]<mlcr>from memory, build-essential is If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package. This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. or apt-get install build-essential; to be able to compile shit
[02:58]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>boy.. not censored for kids are we
[02:58]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>maybe fcc should come in here
[02:58]<vxyrrpysx>stew?
[02:59]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!build
[02:59]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!help
[02:59]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!toppics
[02:59]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!you
[02:59]<mlcr>dpkg is probably the base of the Debian package management system. It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993. dpkg is similar to RPM, as it is used to install, remove, and provide information about deb packages. dpkg itself is a low level tool; higher level tools, such as APT, are used to fetch packages from remote locations or deal with complex package relations. see also <apt-get>, <apt>, and <aptitude>
[02:59]<vxyrrpysx>!ops open your eyes please
[02:59]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!ask
[02:59]<mlcr>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS: thingfish complains about: open your eyes please
[02:59]<mlcr>If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
[03:00]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>ok but where is a list of things i can ask you dumb bot
[03:00]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: please /msg the bot
[03:01]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>amphi tell it to tell me about compiling a kernel in this package distro
[03:02]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!kpkg
[03:02]<mlcr>methinks kpkg is a KDE package manager designed for handling RPM files, but can also somewhat handle debs. If you're looking for kernel-package ask me about that instead
[03:02]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: stop it
[03:02]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!kernel-package
[03:02]<mlcr>To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra'
[03:03]<vxyrrpysx>amphi: it's pointless to tell him/it to stop when the ops are derelict.
[03:03]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>why is this channel so busy i am making people miss things?
[03:03]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>no
[03:03]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>so shut up
[03:03]<vxyrrpysx>because I really doubt he/she/it is disposed towards being civil and such.
[03:04]<rdlxy>thingfish: oh, well - luckily there's the oubliette, in which such imbeciles may languish ;)
[03:04]<vxyrrpysx>heh
[03:04]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>debian fools
[03:04]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>learn linux
[03:04]<vxyrrpysx>hey at least we're not in some other distro's channel being a fool.
[03:04]<rdlxy>thingfish: sorry, 'microcephalic imbeciles' ;)
[03:04]<cxrcrr>~__~
[03:05]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>i'm using the damn bot
[03:05]<vxyrrpysx>amphi: I don't think a mere dozen brain cells qualifies as microcephaly. ;)
[03:05]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>watch out or i'll have the fcc close your channel
[03:05]<vxyrrpysx>hehe
[03:05]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: hahaha
[03:05]<cxrcrr>lol
[03:05]<vxyrrpysx>ok, now we know MetaPhaze_laptop is 13 or under.
[03:06]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>!build-essential
[03:06]<mlcr>extra, extra, read all about it, build-essential is If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package. This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. or apt-get install build-essential; to be able to compile shit
[03:06]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>i happen to be 30
[03:06]<wryvyrr>wtf
[03:06]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>and shit isn't fcc compliant
[03:06]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: mental age is lagging a bit...
[03:06]<rdlxy>who gives a crap?
[03:06]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>fcc does
[03:06]<vxyrrpysx>ok enough of this, I'm off to oftc.
[03:06]<rdlxy>what is 'fcc'? Fulham Cricket Club?
[03:07]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>my mental age is lagging? i'm not foolishly attacking people trying to get help
[03:07]<gjcjjl>when upgrading the kernel on my Debain (IBM thinkpad) from 2.4 to 2.6 via apt, i.e. apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 and when I try to boot into the new kernel, this is the error message i get - pivot_root: no such file or directory, I think what's happening is that pivot_root is trying to mount the actual filesystem from /dev/hda and not finding it, which gives me a feeling there is something wrong with the IDE or somesuch in the initrd file. an
[03:07]<gjcjjl>y ideas on how to get the new kernel working?
[03:07]<2yr_r>hey sup i'm a newbie to the linux scene and decided to try debian on an old laptop i have (had to floppy install... no cd drive)... was messing with if for awhile but after updating once my X server always fails to start ( i even tried a fresh install)... anyone with any suggestions or a better way to start of learning linux on a whole
[03:08]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>amphi how old are you 12? it's the federal communication commission
[03:08]<rdlxy>big_g: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86/xorg ?
[03:08]<2yr_r>yeah
[03:08]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: ah... not everyone lives in the us
[03:09]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>sux to be you
[03:09]<rdlxy>big_g: xorg or xfree86?
[03:09]<rdlxy>MetaPhaze_laptop: hahaha
[03:09]<2yr_r>xorg
[03:10]<rdlxy>big_g: anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[03:11]<2yr_r>see im totally new to this all so none of that made any sense to me... those my reason for also asking if this seems like the right route to take to learning linux
[03:12]<2yr_r>dont get me wrong i can read that file from the command line but not of it makes sense
[03:12]<2yr_r>to me that is
[03:13]<wryvyrr>:)
[03:13]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>big_g what's the problem?
[03:14]<wryvyrr>you have analysed the situation correctly
[03:14]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>big_g join #mystrix we can paste there
[03:14]<wryvyrr>now deal with it ;)
[03:14]<mnvrlxrnn_frlvjl>big_g i can teach you anything you want to know... 12 years experience with linux
[03:22]<krssrx>is there any trick to get Debian Installer to recognize RAID Cards?
[03:24]<grvxjgm>Kassah: probably depends alot on the raid card, a real hardware raid card would probably not even tell the OS its a raid
[03:24]<krssrx>that's what I thoguht too :(
[03:25]<krssrx>but the debian installer is making me look at the 4 HDs
[03:25]<krssrx>maybe I should check my RAID setup
[03:26]<grvxjgm>Kassah: note that most modern "raid" controllers is not in hardware, but rather an OS driver which takes care of the raid bit
[03:26]<grvxjgm>in which case it all comes down to whether the correct driver exists
[03:27]<krssrx>well... I get into RAID setup via BIOS
[03:27]<krssrx>I believe it's built into the Motherboard
[03:28]<krssrx>yep
[03:29]<grvxjgm>Kassah: unlesyour motherboard is mode expensive than I think, its most likely a "fakeraid" (the OS driver does the work) and hence depends totally on the driver
[03:29]<krssrx>great...
[03:29]<krssrx>spend $5k on a server... and *grumbles*
[03:29]<wryvyrr>in other words, it's a winraid ^^
[03:30]<krssrx>yeah
[03:30]<krssrx>I see it comes with a RAID driver

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