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[06:53]<ugsvr2fn>RainbowW: And Sun promised to make it free software soon also.
[06:53]<ugsvr2fn>!greet adiddy
[06:53]<mlcr>Welcome, adiddy
[06:54]<rryg2jww>okay, so there you go.
[06:54]<ugsvr2fn>rue_house: Why not use cinellera?
[06:54]<zun_xjusn> kdelibs4 BOTH DEPENDS AND CONFLICTS with ...
[06:54]<mrfuyrvnfj>Hi guys
[06:54]<zun_xjusn>cause cinerrella only crashes
[06:54]<mvs>!greet Maquiavelo
[06:54]<mlcr>Salutations, Maquiavelo
[06:54]<zun_xjusn>and dosnt do what I want
[06:54]<zun_xjusn>I had kdenlive isntalled and working
[06:54]<mrfuyrvnfj>I'm running Debian Etch, for some reason, my gdm isn't working, I try ./gdm restart or ./gdm start/stop and nothing happens, not even an error, nothing.
[06:54]<jvye>unstable: do alot of people run the unstable release?
[06:54]<zun_xjusn>I removed it *just for a sec*
[06:54]<mrfuyrvnfj>The screen doesn't even flicker.
[06:55]<mrfuyrvnfj>If I try startx, X starts, so what gives?
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>and now the package is gone off the internet
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>within like a week
[06:55]<ugsvr2fn>JViz: yes
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>I'm upset
[06:55]<rryg2jww>JViz: i used to, before the sarge released. when that happened, sid went to shit for me.
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>cause kdenlive was deleted under my nose
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>I found a deb for it, but the dependencies wont behave
[06:55]<jvye>RainbowW: sid?
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>cause of kde
[06:55]<zun_xjusn>grrrr
[06:56]<ugsvr2fn>!tell Maquiavelo about xorg6.9to7
[06:56]<zun_xjusn>I want to make another film!
[06:56]<ugsvr2fn>!tell Maquiavelo about x6.9to7
[06:56]<rryg2jww>JViz: stable == sarge; testing == etch; unstable == sid
[06:56]<mrfuyrvnfj>unstable: Nothing lol
[06:56]<mrfuyrvnfj>unstable: It was working before, but I installed XGL
[06:56]<ugsvr2fn>!x7 problems
[06:58]<zun_xjusn> kdelibs4 BOTH DEPENDS AND CONFLICTS with kdelibs-data
[06:58]<rryg2jww>you said that.
[06:59]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>!depends kdelibs4
[06:59]<zun_xjusn>I been running around in circles
[06:59]<rryg2jww>oh joy
[07:00]<zun_xjusn>for hours now
[07:00]<rryg2jww>i've managed to break my vncserver
[07:00]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>!+depends kdelibs4 sarge
[07:00]<mlcr>Updating debian files... please wait.
[07:00]<mlcr>kdelibs4: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libarts1 (>= 1.3.2), libasound2 (>> 1.0.8), libaspell15 (>= 0.60), libaudio2, libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.23-1), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libfam0c102, libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libidn11 (>= 0.5.13), libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0), libjasper-1.701-1 (>= 1.701.0), ...
[07:00]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>!+conflicts kdelibs4 sarge
[07:00]<mlcr>kdelibs4: kdelibs3 (<< 4:3.0.0), kdepim-libs (<< 4:3.0.0), kdetrayproxy (>= 0.2-1), libkmid (<< 4:3.0.0), libkmid-alsa (<< 4:3.0.0), kdeaccessibility (<< 3.3.0), kdeaddons (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeadmin (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeartwork (<< 4:3.3.0), kdebase (<< 4:3.3.0), kdebindings (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeedu (<< 4:3.3.0), kdegames (<< 4:3.3.0), kdegraphics (<< 4:3.3.0), kde-i18n (<< 4:3.3.0), kdemultimedia (<< 4:3.3.0), kdenetwork (<< 4:3.3.0), kdepim (<< 4:3.3.0), kdesdk ...
[07:00]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>damn I hate kde packages.
[07:00]<zun_xjusn>am I just totally burned out?
[07:00]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: in any event the conflict is almost assuredly a versioned conflict.
[07:01]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: esp. considering the fact that the dependency is also similarly versioned.
[07:02]<zun_xjusn>whats worse is I been in the same freaking runaround trying to get the dependencies I need to compile it
[07:03]<zun_xjusn>at this rate I'm gonna have to pull in every source package there is and compile everything
[07:03]<zun_xjusn>(:(
[07:03]<mrfuyrvnfj>Hey guys, how can I download a .deb package directly from the repository? without using apt/aptitude
[07:03]<mrfuyrvnfj>I mean, where is the URL
[07:03]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:03]<zun_xjusn>install kdenlive
[07:03]<mrfuyrvnfj>I want to get eterm, but it's not in etch, but it's in unstable and stable
[07:03]<zun_xjusn>thats my goal
[07:03]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>Maquiavelo: apt-cache show foopkg; will tell you the entry in the pool.
[07:04]<zun_xjusn>inteh past week they pulled it out ofthe debian archives
[07:04]<mrfuyrvnfj>dondelelcaro: What if it's in a different version?
[07:04]<mrfuyrvnfj>dondelelcaro: I'm running Etch, but the package is available in Sarge and Sid.
[07:04]<mrfuyrvnfj>Not Etch.
[07:04]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>Maquiavelo: so look at packages.debian.org, find the package, and click the download link for your architecture.
[07:05]<mrfuyrvnfj>That's the url ! :P
[07:05]<mrfuyrvnfj>Thanks
[07:05]<[nzyrr-]>Hi!
[07:05]<[nzyrr-]>liable it worked!
[07:05]<[nzyrr-]>it's installing now
[07:05]<[nzyrr-]>and i'm able to irc at the same time!
[07:05]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: ok... from what I can tell it wasn't ever there. In any event, what is keeping you from installing the dependencies that you need to build it?
[07:05]<zun_xjusn>I'v burned up 20% of a 2G partition trying to get this program back
[07:06]<[nzyrr-]>rue_house awwww, poor baby
[07:06]<[nzyrr-]>:D
[07:06]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: so apt-get install the build dependencies that you need, and build it. If you're having a problem installing them, /msg dpkg bat; and give us the appropriate output.
[07:07]<[nzyrr-]>is the latest debian glibc 2.3.3?
[07:07]<zun_xjusn>ok, the primary problem is that they need kde-config AND libqt3-mt, which, if I recall correctly, conflict
[07:07]<fyr2fn>[erica-]: cool
[07:07]<[nzyrr-]>will there be an apt-get for oracle installation?
[07:07]<zun_xjusn>been at htis for 3 days now, all because a package was removed from the archives while I wasn't expecting it
[07:07]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>[erica-]: no, unless oracle provides it.
[07:08]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>!+find kde-config sarge
[07:08]<mlcr>Updating debian files... please wait.
[07:08]<[nzyrr-]>i'm running debian on celeron 800mhz :~(
[07:08]<mlcr>Debian Search of 'kde-config' (2): (/usr/bin/kde-config) in libs/kdelibs-bin ;; (/usr/share/apps/kdevappwizard/template-common/kde-configure.in.in) in kde/kdevelop3-data.
[07:08]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: then you should be able to install libqt3-mt-dev; I don't know what provides kde-config, but dpkg will tell us
[07:08]<[nzyrr-]>it's all I have
[07:08]<zun_xjusn>its been a day since I tried to compile, so I'm not sure wwhat I'm saying is accurate
[07:09]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: so yeah, installing kdelibs-bin and libqt3-mt-dev will provide that.
[07:09]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: if you're using etch, you'll have to get kdelibs-bin from sid, but that's fairly simple.
[07:09]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>(at least, until kdelibs-bin migrates back into testing
[07:10]<zun_xjusn>kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4) but it is not going to be installed
[07:10]<zun_xjusn> kdenlive: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-4.0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:10]<zun_xjusn> libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:10]<zun_xjusn> Depends: qt3-dev-tools (= 3:3.3.6-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:10]<zun_xjusn>sorry
[07:10]<rryg2jww>where does one set gnome as the default wm, if kde is also installed? when i connect to the X server i'm currently getting generic gray with the X cursor and that's about it. ps shows some gnome components but i'm obviously missing something.
[07:11]<mjgmnfnfzzzj>rue_house: so walk through the dependencies of libqt3-mt-dev trying to install them, and tell me what fails. [or kdelibs4, either will work]
[07:11]<zun_xjusn>erp, how do I specify a sid ver?

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