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[05:52]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: eselect opengl set nvidia
[05:52]<vrdr00>Yes! thanks Ticho
[05:52]<vrdr00>Ticondrius, !
[05:53]<tyajgmzyus>Plz note R100 Radeon is a 7000 VE. :P
[05:53]<sdfvysa>Gonna have to emerge eselect first?
[05:53]<tyajgmzyus>first generation radeon
[05:53]<vrdr00>:( i thoguth it was gonna be a 7800GT </3
[05:53]<tyajgmzyus>lol
[05:53]<mzgajz>Ferret: how do i fix it
[05:53]<yntzq>Kurogane: re emerge that font?
[05:54]<sdfvysa>39/235 on KDE.
[05:54]<sdfvysa>Draconx, gonna have to emerge eselect first?
[05:54]<mzgajz>Ferret: isn't the first step making sure that my own build of it does support -P, so it's not a gnu grep problem?
[05:54]<kuzjrrgn>YeTr2, i dont emerge any font :\
[05:54]<tyajgmzyus>What's the right channel to harrass..uhh..ask about X11 problems?
[05:54]<sdfvysa>I wanna say #x11
[05:54]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: no
[05:54]<yntzq>Kurogane: what version of xorg are you using?
[05:54]<mzgajz>Ferret: and wouldn't Draconx be right if was in a hurry? heh
[05:54]<yntzq>Kurogane: xorg-x11
[05:54]<tyajgmzyus>6.8.2 or whatever is latest x86
[05:54]<sdfvysa>bash: eselect: command not found
[05:54]<mzgajz>Ferret: slash not down with ebuilds
[05:54]<fnzznv>dancor: OK, here's your solution: 'pcregrep'
[05:55]<mzgajz>Ferret: nope. does not support -o
[05:55]<kuzjrrgn>YeTr2, the last xorg-x11 version 6
[05:56]<yntzq>Kurogane: technically, the latest is 7, so you are using the latest stable...
[05:56]<fnzznv>ferret@skunk ~ $ pcregrep -o Con.*out bin/scores
[05:56]<fnzznv>ConnectTimeout=2 "${out
[05:56]<fnzznv>dancor: wfm
[05:56]<sdfvysa>Should there be a Load "nvidia" under Sextion "Module" in xorg.conf?
[05:56]<fnzznv>sylvisj: No, nvidia isn't a loadable module of that kind
[05:57]<fnzznv>sylvisj: Load "glx" is what you need
[05:57]<mzgajz>Ferret: which libprce? i'm at -6.3
[05:57]<sdfvysa>It's in there, ferret.
[05:57]<sdfvysa>Hmm
[05:57]<fnzznv>dancor: 6.6 here, which is ~x86 keyworded
[05:57]<sdfvysa>I have to emerge nvidia-glx?
[05:57]<rmrgvn>any screen users out there - when i ssh in as another user A, then su to user B, I am unable to resume B's already running screen session (unable to open /dev/pts/10, or similar error) - I understand this seems to come from the fact that A would not have access to B's terminal, but as I have sudo'd to become B, why is this still happening?
[05:57]<fnzznv>sylvisj: You have to emerge nvidia-kernel then nvidia-glx, yes.
[05:58]<yntzq>Kurogane: The easiest would be to reemerge xorg-x11 to see if it goes away...
[05:58]<sdfvysa>Ferret: I got nvidia-kernel from the nvidia drivers installer
[05:58]<sdfvysa>It apparently forgot the nvidia-glx files though
[05:58]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: use the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx ebuilds
[05:58]<sdfvysa>rgr
[05:58]<mzgajz>this is very gentoo. the solution to one broken package is to use a different program and switch to unstable on totally different packages.
[05:58]<fznmnzyac_>hi golks anyone here uses nmap?
[05:59]<fnzznv>adante: as user B su-ed up from A, can you do this command and tell me the output?: ls -l `tty`
[05:59]<yntzq>Kurogane: or posibily delete that font which is causing issues, but then you run into the problem of not being able to use that fone in particular
[05:59]<sdfvysa>What's the diff. between ebuilds and nvidia's installer?
[05:59]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: the ebuilds are gentoo-ey
[05:59]<sdfvysa>k
[05:59]<fnzznv>dancor: If you think that the lack of -o is a bug, it should get fixed in the version you're uing, so you should report it. It might, however, just be a feature it didn't have yet.
[05:59]<yntzq>sylvisj: ebuild lets gentoo's packagemanagement handle it. ebild still uses the same installer file thou
[06:00]<sdfvysa>Yeah, I see that it is downloading the installer now
[06:00]<fnzznv>sylvisj: The gentoo ebuilds do cleverer things
[06:00]<rmrgvn>Ferret: umm.. no such file for directory.. do you mean /dev/tty? crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 May 13 07:42 /dev/tty
[06:00]<fnzznv>It uses files in the installer, in doesn't use the installer itself.
[06:00]<yntzq>sylvisj: you are installing nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, right?
[06:01]<kuzjrrgn>YeTr2, in my xorg.conf see that FontPath "/usr/share/fonts *" but i miss alot fonts how i can emerge all font for X?
[06:01]<fnzznv>adante: note the backticks in ls -l `tty`. They have to be backticks (usually left of your number 1 key)
[06:01]<mzgajz>Ferret: i think it was not a feature yet.
[06:01]<fznmnzyac>hi golks anyone here uses nmap?
[06:01]<puppcjjf>I have an amd64, should I get the amd64 stage3 tarball or the x86 version for gentoo 2006.0?
[06:01]<dzrajgw>Frederick: just ask your question
[06:01]<rmrgvn>Ferret: oop, my bad.. crw--w---- 1 myth tty 136, 10 May 14 13:01 /dev/pts/10
[06:01]<yntzq>Kurogane: thats something in xorg-x11 7 with the modularness and all..
[06:01]<dzrajgw>PuffCool: depends whether you want 64-bit or 32-bit
[06:01]<fznmnzyac>Draconx, I can't scan ppl dunno why it never retrieves the info
[06:01]<fnzznv>Beat me. :)
[06:01]<puppcjjf>I want something that will work for sure
[06:01]<mzgajz>Ferret: thanks for pointing out libpcre-6.6 will also do what i need. how do i report this problem with grep though?
[06:02]<yntzq>Kurogane: generally, the fonts are part of the xorg-x11 package
[06:02]<puppcjjf>nothing experimental
[06:02]<rggjgg>PuffCool: if you care about proprietary crap like flash use the x86 one
[06:02]<puppcjjf>ok, thanks
[06:02]<dzrajgw>Frederick: nmap -p a-b x.x.x.x works for me
[06:02]<fnzznv>dancor: It's not a bug, it's a feature.
[06:03]<dzrajgw>Flash can be used in amd64, just requires firefox-bin
[06:03]<rmrgvn>Ferret: cool, chmod go+rw `tty` fixed it.. thanks :]
[06:03]<fnzznv>ewarn "This grep ebuild no longer supports pcre. If you want this" ewarn "functionality, please use 'pcregrep' from the libpcre package."
[06:03]<mzgajz>Ferret: oh, are you sure? the man page has a bug then
[06:04]<mzgajz>Ferret: or do gentoo maintainers actually consider it ok to have the grep manpage lie
[06:04]<lzvvgzg>suddenly the keys on my numeric keypad have changed so that pressing them moves my mouse cursor... this was not happening just half an hour ago... and i didn't change anything in my config... what could be going on?
[06:05]<puppcjjf>I tried the stage3-x86-2006.0.tar.bz2 and failed at compiling. am I supposed to use that one or the i686?
[06:05]<fnzznv>dancor: Now *that* is a reasonable bug which you should go submit. :)
[06:05]<mzgajz>hah ok
[06:06]<fnzznv>dancor: BTW I'm reading the reason for it being disabled at the moment, and it seems to hold water; but I assure you if there's a way of enabling that doesn't break other things I'll write a patch and submit it. ^o.^
[06:06]<puppcjjf>the amd64 handbook uses stage3-x86-2006.0.tar.bz2 in it's instructions
[06:06]<mzgajz>but have we really decided to drop -P? aren't there lots of extant scripts that use it? i've certainly got a lot. ah ok
[06:07]<mzgajz>i guess i could always sed 's/grep -P/pcregrep' my hd ;)
[06:07]<sdfvysa>Wow, cedega killed me
[06:07]<lzvvgzg>ok... found a solution to the weird mouse-cursor problem... http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=97083165624827&w=4
[06:07]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: what do you mean?
[06:08]<sdfvysa>I closed the config wizard, set up nvidia stuff, opened Cedega and *boom* black screen and no system response
[06:08]<sdfvysa>It's working great now, even detected my vid card right... but man was that weird
[06:09]<sdfvysa>Ok, I need help now
[06:09]<sdfvysa>KDE's build died in the middle
[06:09]<sdfvysa>How do I save it?
[06:10]<dzrajgw>sylvisj: emerge --resume







