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[09:41]<rj22yna2>MoL0ToV: gcc -03 hammers the CPU more.
[09:41]<syfggv2j2>do I seperate with commas?
[09:41]<zyvnzzrv>RobbieAB: You should tell him what the wheel group is all about before recommending that one.
[09:41]<rrdnst9w>I did
[09:41]<rma0>how do I know if my swap is up and working?
[09:41]<fyznsymn>you night want the audio group roo
[09:41]<mjl0tjv>you know that my system is freezed :))
[09:42]<irdevxjs>how often should I update world?
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>do groups limit me?
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>How do they hurt me?
[09:42]<nac>uh, it's -O not -0
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>It just seems "limiting"
[09:42]<rrdnst9w>the wheel group allows those users to escalate their proviliges to the superuser, provided htey know the superuser's passwd
[09:42]<ggvgzgrf>adj0: free
[09:42]<rrdnst9w>*they
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>su
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>i know that
[09:42]<nac>gcc -O3 not gcc -03
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>but why is there groups in the first place?
[09:42]<rj22yna2>MoL0ToV: The temperature is not directly related to the load.
[09:42]<rrdnst9w>responding to RiverRat
[09:42]<syfggv2j2>What if this is MY computer--
[09:42]<rrdnst9w>and RobbieAB
[09:42]<mjl0tjv>freezed=locked
[09:42]<mjl0tjv>:)
[09:43]<mjl0tjv>crashed
[09:43]<syfggv2j2>just having audio, video, games, wheel good enough?
[09:43]<rj22yna2>MoL0ToV: Ah, Check your power supply.
[09:43]<rrdnst9w>add users
[09:43]<rrdnst9w>although you should be in that by default
[09:43]<rma0>free -m shows my swap as not being used at all.... how can I make sure its running properly?
[09:43]<sdfvysa>ahhh this is mind boggling
[09:43]<sdfvysa>Ok, for example
[09:43]<rj22yna2>adj0: How much ram do you have?
[09:43]<nac>adj0: run a fork bomb :-)
[09:43]<rrdnst9w>if you want to be able to emerge -p and emerge -s you can add portage
[09:43]<rj22yna2>It may not need the swop
[09:44]<sdfvysa>how would I set command xmms --play to run @ 5:30AM?
[09:44]<rma0>512mb
[09:44]<rma0>fork bomb?
[09:44]<syfggv2j2>james, I need to do everyting
[09:44]<rj22yna2>sylvisj: Cron
[09:44]<syfggv2j2>thing*
[09:44]<syfggv2j2>why do they want to limit us?
[09:44]<sdfvysa>robbieab, I know, what string would I add to /etc/crontab?
[09:44]<syfggv2j2>don't we all want admin access on our own computers?
[09:44]<csxdvd>* 5 * * * command
[09:45]<rrdnst9w>admin access==wheel +root passwd
[09:45]<rj22yna2>30 5 * * * xmms --play ;I think
[09:45]<nac>adj0: at your own risk, run this command: :(){ :|:& };:
[09:45]<syfggv2j2>su
[09:45]<syfggv2j2>i know that command well
[09:45]<csxdvd>oh 5.30 30 5 * * *
[09:45]<csxdvd>:)))
[09:45]<syfggv2j2>i guess that is it
[09:45]<syfggv2j2>su is my best friend
[09:45]<nac>adj0: it might lock up your system, but it will certainly use all your memory
[09:45]<sdfvysa>Ok
[09:45]<rma0>lol gr8 =)
[09:45]<sdfvysa>So if I wanted to test it, 47 1 * * * xmms --play?
[09:45]<vmz>eck, please don't paste that in the channel
[09:46]<rj22yna2>adj0: Unless you have process limits enabled.
[09:46]<rma0>lol there goes my machine
[09:46]<rj22yna2>lol
[09:46]<rma0>and no, in the first few secs, it did not use swap
[09:46]<rj22yna2>Did it after?
[09:47]<vmz>adj0, course not, it takes a few for the memory to fill up and have a need to swap
[09:47]<rma0>not at all. thats why i think my swap isnt working right
[09:47]<syfggv2j2>here it goes
[09:47]<csxdvd>if it'll start using swam constantly - it's sign that you need more ram
[09:47]<syfggv2j2>it is doing it for me
[09:47]<csxdvd>;)
[09:47]<syfggv2j2>the installer!
[09:47]<rma0>it might help to mention that it is raid1'd
[09:47]<vmz>once you hit swap, you're gone tho, it's too slow to catch it
[09:47]<syfggv2j2>LOL, i added a bunch of packages
[09:47]<syfggv2j2>I probably F***ed it up
[09:47]<csxdvd>well 2.5GB of ram should do for now
[09:48]<nac>adj0: well you can manually activate swap by using swapon
[09:48]<sdfvysa>Yay cron works
[09:48]<syfggv2j2>mkswap /dev/sdb2
[09:48]<rj22yna2>sylvisj: good
[09:48]<syfggv2j2>swapon /dev/sdb2
[09:48]<rma0>swapon seems to work, if i do it a 2nd time it says resource busy
[09:48]<syfggv2j2>(that's for me anyways)
[09:48]<csxdvd>sylvisj: i added also script that for every 5sec raises volume level :)))
[09:48]<nnzjvx909>anyone: during boot, I get a couple messages which say soemthing like "udevd_event ... find_free_number is deprecated..." is this worth fussing with?
[09:48]<nac>adj0: then it should be working
[09:48]<rrdnst9w>cool explanation of the bash fork bomb: http://www.euglug.org/pipermail/euglug/2005-August/004338.html
[09:49]<csxdvd>you don't want to get up in explosion of sound ;)
[09:49]<vmz>zeroth404, nope
[09:49]<nnzjvx909>tdr, mind explaining what it is?
[09:49]<vmz>zeroth404, means one package is ahead of an other, and it'll fix itself in an update
[09:49]<sdfvysa>kshyvy: Screw that
[09:49]<nnzjvx909>tdr, thank ya much.
[09:49]<sfjfjnd>Has anyone used acovea?
[09:49]<sdfvysa>either I wake up or I don't and the neighbors do :P
[09:49]<csxdvd>sylvisj: i tried - first time it was 4am and i nearly got hear attack
[09:49]<sdfvysa>Besides, the heart attack factor will wake me up faster ^_^
[09:50]<sdfvysa>Hmm.
