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[09:29]<fy2nz>not hard just A LOT to know
[09:29]<fy2nz>just takes some time I guess
[09:29]<gfvggsvzz>yep
[09:29]<gfvggsvzz>it becomes second nature too
[09:30]<mgrm_ogg>try doing it with a single computer with no internet cause the livecd didn't detect your network card
[09:30]<gfvggsvzz>just like clicking next in windows
[09:30]<fy2nz>I can't decide which filesystem for boot lol
[09:30]<gfvggsvzz>ext2
[09:30]<mgrm_ogg>fat32!
[09:30]<fy2nz>Dead_One I'm Hard wired now :D
[09:30]<fy2nz>haha
[09:30]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> fat16
[09:30]<fy2nz>I went and got CAT-6
[09:31]<fy2nz>50 Foot
[09:31]<fy2nz>Ntfs!
[09:31]<mgrm_ogg>i still think you'd find it easier to install through ssh
[09:31]<fy2nz>oh
[09:31]<gfvggsvzz>except fat/ntfs won't recognize links
[09:31]<mgrm_ogg>its the same, but you don't have to go "DOH, wrong keyboard"
[09:31]<fy2nz>What is equil of Windows Media Player
[09:31]<mgrm_ogg>or turn your head and look at the other monitor (or if you had dual monitor, you CAN :)
[09:31]<fy2nz>for movies
[09:32]<fy2nz>and videos
[09:32]<mgrm_ogg>which window manager you using?
[09:32]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> did that once then figured it would be better to use ssh
[09:32]<fy2nz>none yet
[09:32]<gfvggsvzz>Fiber> mplayer
[09:32]<fy2nz>lol
[09:32]<mgrm_ogg>well, if you install one, it'll probably install one for you
[09:32]<fy2nz>Friend said I need X and Gnome
[09:32]<fy2nz>whatever those are
[09:33]<mgrm_ogg>you'll get to those later
[09:33]<mgrm_ogg>you done formatting your partitions yet?
[09:33]<fy2nz>YES
[09:33]<fy2nz>filesystem one se
[09:33]<mgrm_ogg>you to "downloading the stage3 tar.bz" ?
[09:33]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> X is window server gnome is a window manager kde is another one gnome is like macos and kde is like windows
[09:33]<gfvggsvzz>oops
[09:33]<gfvggsvzz>Fiber> X is window server gnome is a window manager kde is another one gnome is like macos and kde is like windows
[09:33]<gfvggsvzz>heheh wrong nick
[09:34]<mgrm_ogg>i found it very informative!
[09:34]<gfvggsvzz>:P
[09:34]<mgrm_ogg>ick, this mirror is slow only 68KB/s
[09:34]<fy2nz>So what does X do
[09:35]<mgrm_ogg>give you a big head ache
[09:35]<gfvggsvzz>serves desktop managers
[09:35]<gfvggsvzz>X == The X Windows System
[09:35]<mgrm_ogg>hey i gots a question, why does xmms crap out when playing streamed sources?
[09:36]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> i don't know
[09:36]<mgrm_ogg>you have it happen to you?
[09:37]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> i used to have xmms crash cause i had an alsa configured sound card
[09:38]<mgrm_ogg>it doesn't crash, it just sticks a 0, but it'll play normal .mp3 i've saved to disk
[09:38]<gfvggsvzz>Dead_One> prolly buffering check config
[09:39]<lwuneve_>anyone upgraded to glibc 2.4 ?
[09:39]<gfvggsvzz>heh
[09:40]<gfvggsvzz>pwuertz> i think thats what has killed my toolchain
[09:40]<lwuneve_>ouch
[09:40]<gfvggsvzz>indeed
[09:40]<lwuneve_>seems I am lucky... worked quite well
[09:41]<lwuneve_>there are 2 applications that refuse to work.. and i dont know how to fix that... recompiled everything ^^
[09:41]<lwuneve_>(i think)
[09:41]<myssaavnc>How do I make subtitles in xine not look like rubbish?
[09:43]<vzyppym_hugvnz>MissActek: play with the settings.. they look fine to me here
[09:44]<myssaavnc>They're white with no border, so they're hard to read sometimes. :/
[09:44]<dranc>I have got simple problem I think...
[09:45]<dranc>In system I have got user John and root. As a root I would like to pack directory which belongs to John
[09:45]<mgrm_ogg>pebkac.
[09:46]<dranc>than after unpacking that directory to the same place I would like it to have earlier rights
[09:46]<vzyppym_hugvnz>yacek: tar has an option to preserve permissions
[09:46]<vnpnzy`>anyone know of a backend mail fetcher/reader i can use for gkrellm's mail plugin?
[09:46]<fxugrvx>yacek: umask
[09:47]<kueae>hey, anyone know where the live CD keeps its stage3 tarball?
[09:47]<mgrm_ogg>is it the 120M cd or the 650M one?
[09:47]<fxugrvx>kurcz: /stages?
[09:47]<dranc>I would like it to have the same rights and owner after unpacking, like before it
[09:47]<kueae>no
[09:47]<fxugrvx>hm could swear it used to
[09:47]<fxugrvx>yacek: tar -p
[09:48]<mgrm_ogg>the minimal install cd doesn't contain the stage tarballs
[09:48]<kueae>I'm using the 2006.0 and trying to install but it keeps frezzing right at the beinning of the install
[09:48]<dranc>tahnks
[09:48]<mgrm_ogg>freezing?
[09:48]<mgrm_ogg>init panic?
[09:48]<mgrm_ogg>segfault?
[09:48]<kueae>its the live cd-i686-installer-2006.0
[09:48]<kueae>cd
[09:48]<kueae>no
[09:48]<fxugrvx>kurcz: explain freezing
[09:49]<kueae>it just says preparing on the top bar and working on the bottom, and stays there
[09:50]<fxugrvx>while hotplugging? or splash screen? (F2 toggles 'detailed' view)
[09:50]<kueae>so the disc I have doesnt have the stage3 tarball?
[09:50]<fxugrvx>if it's minimal, no, you need to wget it
[09:50]<kueae>I'm using the live cd, and it has the gnome setup
[09:50]<kueae>I can't get internet to work either :/
[09:51]<kueae>I do the net-setup and eth0 only goes up for a minute, but still I cant get it to connect to anytihng
[09:51]<fxugrvx>modprobe my_network_card's_module && net-setup eth0 && lynx gentoo.org
[09:51]<fxugrvx>kurcz: you mean it goes up and comes down again on its own?
[09:51]<kueae>yes
[09:52]<kueae>I have an intel pro wireless 2200 bg card, what is my module for that?
[09:52]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Kurcz: ipw2200

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