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[10:08]<cjzsv1g>migrate to gentoo, its not too late.
[10:08]<cbzjq007>yeah sure thing korst3n :)
[10:08]<vzyppym_hugvnz>CBro2006: another nice option is PermitRootLogin without-password, which only allows root login with a key
[10:08]<fxugrvx>only way you'll get a good gentoo server system is if you build it yourself --
[10:09]<fxugrvx>server providers just don't bother with gentoo
[10:09]<dzzzyp>lhunath, for good reason.
[10:09]<cjzsv1g>man i wish layeredtech support gentoo
[10:09]<2frrarrn>Triffid_Hunter: but it would be better to just turn off s/key and password interactive logins completely :)
[10:09]<2frrarrn>korst3n: layeredtech?
[10:09]<cjzsv1g>i only used gentoo 1 time on my server (from france)..
[10:09]<vzyppym_hugvnz>blackace: hehe true that
[10:10]<cjzsv1g>blackace, a datacenter.
[10:10]<2frrarrn>lhunath: not true, sevenl.net, tek.net, and vr.org all support gentoo
[10:10]<dracj>im having a problem, alot of what i try to compile in world gets emake failed and has callstack errors
[10:11]<cjzsv1g>and oxyd.fr support gentoo. they sell unlimited (yea) servers.
[10:11]<fxugrvx>blackace: would you recommend those?
[10:11]<fxugrvx>macko: pastebin the stack?
[10:11]<fyeevslrwg>ooo goody .. are we bar-b-q-ing fedora users?
[10:11]<dzzzyp>hrm, i support gentoo locally on my network, if anyone wants a shell
[10:11]<2frrarrn>lhunath: I've only had dealings with vr.org, but they were quite good
[10:12]<fyeevslrwg>tomato*
[10:12]<2frrarrn>order up!
[10:12]<dzzzyp>chicken pot pie, please.
[10:13]<fyeevslrwg>I like my fedora user medium rare please :)
[10:13]<2frrarrn>mngrif: only have a few of those left so they'll cost extra, or you could have ubuntu stew
[10:13]<dracj>lhunath: http://pastebin.com/727786
[10:14]<fnssxrsvn>is there any tool that will give me a scrolling news ticker like those you see on the bbc or cnn?
[10:14]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: there should be some rss tickers in portage
[10:14]<cjzsv1g>btw in redhat enterprise server 4 , when i type ps aux , i can see connected users` working directories. like korst3n is currently on /home/korst3n is it possible to do it on gentoo?
[10:15]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=ticker
[10:15]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: thx
[10:15]<cbzjq007>I was actually steering towards Debian
[10:16]<mgrm_ogg>anyone actually download the q1 source from idsoft and try thier makefile?
[10:16]<dzzzyp>blackace, i'll make my own, tyvm :)
[10:16]<nmyv_flq>what would i make my cflags for a dual p3 1.4 gig ?
[10:16]<dzzzyp>s/make/compile/;
[10:16]<fxugrvx>how does one restrict a user's ps to their own processes only (and alternatively also the processes of the groups they belong to)?
[10:16]<2frrarrn>lhunath: grsec
[10:17]<2frrarrn>I recommend hardened-sources uneqivocally
[10:18]<fxugrvx>macko: so install "Allegro 4.0.0 or later"
[10:18]<fnssxrsvn>hmm.... shouldn't http://efinke.com/rssticker/releases/rssticker-1.6.9.xpi try to install the extension instead of just offering me to download it?
[10:18]<fxugrvx>blackace: any impact performance wise / resource wise compared to non-hardened?
[10:18]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: only if the server is set up right...mozilla has a site you can use to install from a url
[10:19]<fnssxrsvn>ok thx
[10:19]<2frrarrn>lhunath: depends on the options you choose, but I use almost all of them and I don't notice any significant difference
[10:19]<2frrarrn>lhunath: I even run hardened on my laptop :)
[10:20]<fxugrvx>blackace: the issue may become more appearant on VPS with 138 RAM guaranteed, though, I recon
[10:20]<fxugrvx>interesting
[10:20]<2frrarrn>lhunath: mm, could be...but I'd rather have security and lower performance than let some skiddie use that performance whenever they like
[10:21]<fxugrvx>blackace: granted
[10:22]<fy2nz>yea
[10:22]<dzzzyp>"yea" ?
[10:23]<fy2nz>i can't get tarball on
[10:23]<fy2nz>using links
[10:23]<fy2nz>=\
[10:24]<mgrm_ogg>you will have to 'download as" not just open
[10:24]<fy2nz>hmm
[10:24]<mgrm_ogg>use your mouse?
[10:24]<srrglrv>is it possible to define a PORTAGE_TMP_DIR on a vfat disk ?
[10:24]<fy2nz>oh
[10:24]<fy2nz>where is download as
[10:24]<mgrm_ogg>if you mouse overthe topof the screen you'll see the pull down menu
[10:24]<mgrm_ogg>under file
[10:25]<fy2nz>I see file
[10:25]<fy2nz>Go to URL
[10:25]<fy2nz>Save as?
[10:25]<2frrarrn>just hit d
[10:27]<fnssxrsvn>I installed rss ticker but I can't see where you specify the feeds!
[10:27]<fnssxrsvn>and the docs are non-existent
[10:27]<2frrarrn>"Pick the releases/ directory, followed by your architecture (for instance x86/) and the Gentoo version (2006.0/) to finish up with the stages/ directory. There you should see all available stage files for your architecture (they might be stored within subdirectories named to the individual subarchitectures). Select one and press D to download. When you're finished, press Q to quit the browser."
[10:28]<zz2dmpuz2d>lesshaste: which ticker did you install?
[10:28]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: http://www.efinke.com/rssticker/
[10:28]<fnssxrsvn>yes that one
[10:29]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: it just uses live bookmarks, it even says right there if you don't have any it displays a window telling you how to add them :)
[10:29]<p0p11v>Has anyone done a fresh install lately and had the portage snapshot stop with a (arg: 2) partway through untaring it?
[10:29]<nlya>hmm, my system-time keeps jumping, what can it be? :)
[10:29]<2frrarrn>l0f33t: hit Esc
[10:29]<vzyppym_hugvnz>l0f33t: no, but i see (arg: 2) when i hit alt+2...
[10:29]<2frrarrn>l0f33t: you must've hit Alt-something
[10:29]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: yes but it is scrolling the bbc news at the moment it seems. I can't seem to see where my "live bookmarks" are listed
[10:30]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: in your bookmarks folder...
[10:30]<dranc>what tar option should I use if I am in /tmp directory and I want to unpack archive to /home directory
[10:30]<p0p11v>Should I just do the tar command again?
[10:30]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: do they look different from normal bookmarks? I am looking there
[10:30]<fxugrvx>yacek: -d/-D, one of those, man tar :P
[10:30]<svgvggd>Hello. I have a sneaking suspicion that KDE 3.5 ebuilds do not properly enable Xinerama support in the build, even with the xinerama use flag set. Can anyone verify this? Has it WORKED for anyone here?
[10:30]<dzdddsduzp>does emerge delete sources when you emerge?
[10:31]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: bookmarks->manage bookmarks is where I am looking
[10:31]<vzyppym_hugvnz>daddysmurf: no it keeps them in /usr/portage/distfiles/ which you can clean out if you need the space and don't mind re-downloading anything you need
[10:31]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: yeah, now do File->Add Live Bookmark
[10:31]<zz2dmpuz2d>lesshaste: bookmarks>manage bookmarks>add live bookmark, or look for a little orange RSS icon in the bottom right corner on Firefox when you're on a news site
[10:31]<fxugrvx>daddysmurf: yes, uness if you have keepwork on
[10:31]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: right I know how to add one. I don't know how to list the current ones
[10:31]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: or delete one
[10:32]<2frrarrn>lesshaste: they're just there, like any other bookmarks
[10:32]<dzdddsduzp>lhunath: how do I go about doing that?
[10:32]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: how do I tell which ones are live?
[10:32]<p0p11v>blackace: Should I just restart the Tarring again? I hit the spacebar and it brought me back to the "livecd gentoo#" again?
[10:32]<fnssxrsvn>blackace: I want to delete the current ones







