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[11:21]<rmzyrrg>mngrif, i will :)
[11:21]<rrxjjv>tama00: any of mplayer, xine, vlc
[11:22]<dzzzyp>eduedix, you'd have to check the various bug repositories, i'm running old versions. 3.5.2 is the latest and greatest, IIRC
[11:22]<vrdr00>triplah, im expreiences that right now
[11:22]<vzyffrx>i have to watch them on my ladies mac
[11:22]<vrdr00>cahoot, it doesnt work
[11:22]<rmzyrrg_>nick Adriaan
[11:22]<vzyffrx>tama00: like, i get about 5 seconds of some stupid movie, that is nothing like when i view it on the mac, then it stops
[11:22]<vzyffrx>thats it
[11:22]<vzyffrx>no errors, nothing
[11:22]<dzzzyp>triplah, mplayer might be of use
[11:22]<vzyffrx>i've tried mplayer, its my media player of choice
[11:23]<vzyffrx>i right click, and go "open dvd"
[11:23]<vrdr00>triplah, mine sprays out with errors.. can open some plugin and sometimes it says fatal error:you will never play this dvd
[11:24]<dzzzyp>tama00, region coding issue, perhaps?
[11:24]<rey`>is there anything i should do before trying to switch from gtk 2.8.17 to 2.8.16
[11:24]<vrdr00>mngrif, it doesnt say that, but it could be why
[11:24]<vzyffrx>azi`: why do that?
[11:24]<rmzyrrg>um how to update portage
[11:24]<vrdr00>mngrif, just if there was a better way on linux to play dvds
[11:24]<vzyffrx>Adriaan: emerge sync; emerge portage
[11:24]<dzzzyp>Adriaan, look around the gentoo website
[11:25]<dzzzyp>tama00, xine
[11:25]<rey`>triplah, bad issues with azureus + gtk2.8.17
[11:25]<dzzzyp>tama00, allthough you're on your own for xine
[11:25]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: you try oogle yet?
[11:25]<vzyffrx>azi`: ahh i see, damn
[11:25]<vxn_xjsnz>er, ogle
[11:25]<vrdr00>mngrif, same errors, xine uses the mplay core or something
[11:25]<vzyffrx>azi`: i've dropped gtk versions before without a hitch
[11:25]<dzzzyp>it shouldn't!
[11:25]<vxn_xjsnz>xine doesnt use the mplayer core
[11:25]<vrdr00>the_hoser, nar i have up and just wanna watch it on my vmware windows system now
[11:25]<dzzzyp>xine is xine, mplayer is mplayer
[11:25]<vzyffrx>azi`: just remember to mask the higher version one
[11:26]<dzzzyp>if anything they are 'comptetators'
[11:26]<rey`>triplah, what do you mean?
[11:26]<vzyffrx>i'd try xine, i've had many bad experiences before tho
[11:26]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: i've had a good deal of success with mplayer and ogle... ogle if i wanna play with the menus...
[11:26]<dzzzyp>competators, at that.
[11:26]<vzyffrx>buggy gui
[11:26]<vrdr00>still doesnt even work in windows=\
[11:26]<vxn_xjsnz>mngrif: just like in capitalism, in free software, competition is a good thing :-D
[11:26]<vrdr00>well virtual windows
[11:27]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: what is the error?
[11:27]<vzyffrx>azi`: well when you emerge update, you'll end up with the higher version gtk again. so add an entry to /etc/portage/package.mask
[11:27]<dzzzyp>the_hoser, yeah, but too much competition = a hundred half-finished programs that do nothing at all
[11:27]<vxn_xjsnz>mngrif: yes, i agree. but in the case of multimedia, two big competitors is a great thing
[11:27]<dzzzyp>the_hoser, MANY years ago, did you every try to find a decent linux instant mesasging client?
[11:28]<vrdr00>the_hoser, FATAL: could not initalize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[11:28]<vnpnzy`>so i accidentally added an extra "/" to the end of my fstab... that was a fun experience.
[11:28]<rey`>triplah, what about the apps linked to the newer gtk?
[11:28]<dyaz0a0sd>whats the command to update to the latest git repository of something that i have already clones?
[11:28]<dyaz0a0sd>*cloned?
[11:28]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: can you play movie files at all?
[11:28]<dzzzyp>the_hoser, oh yeah, if it's just two or three, yeah, more power to 'em... it's when there's more than 20 or so for a MAJOR app type that things get to the 'wasted effort' stage rather quickly, and good apps lose great devs :\
[11:28]<fyznsymn>anyone here using distcc?
[11:28]<vzyffrx>azi`: portge fixes your library symlinks i think. if you have prelinked then you will need to rebuild the apps you have prelinked
[11:28]<vrdr00>the_hoser, yup, i can play any other movie file on my pc
[11:29]<rey`>tribunal, ok thanks
[11:30]<mgrm_ogg>FireSide: i run distcc servers on all my machines in the hope sometime that i'd beable to make use of them, if thats what you mean
[11:30]<vxn_xjsnz>mngrif: yeah it was hell, but the thing is that in the beginning, for anything that needful, there's going to be a bunch of "possibilities", and then they just weed each other out until you have a handful of strong competitors... now in the case of open source, something even better happens. while xine and mplayer are the two "big dogs" of video for linux, a lot of *other* foss projects use their api's to make more "feature
[11:31]<dzzzyp>the_hoser, amarok uses xine as a potential backend, just as totem can use anything under the sun
[11:32]<dzzzyp>but totem does so through gstreamer, IIRC
[11:32]<vxn_xjsnz>mngrif: this is awesome, because of the dynamic nature of open source software, they can continue to develop the parts that they want to develop, and so long as it doesn't change the way that the "core" they use works, they can just link in the latest version of the player (barring weird bugs that like to float up when you do this)
[11:32]<lwuneve_>mngrif, totem has that 2 backends
[11:32]<dzzzyp>pwuertz, it's been a year since i've bothered with totem, i woudln't really know
[11:33]<lwuneve>mngrif, totem is able to use gstreamer or xine as backend
[11:33]<lwuneve>kmplayer uses mplayer/gstreamer/xine
[11:33]<vxn_xjsnz>meh... i just wish the browser plugin capabilities were better... mplayerplug-in works fine for most sites, but all the really cool ones use the newest features of WMP... so it just borks... some sites dont even let the good plugin try... redirecting you to an "unsupported browser" page before you ever get the media...
[11:34]<wxrv_yp>my alsa sound works when I point xmms to hw(1,1) but not default PCM any ideas ?
[11:34]<vrdr00>the_hoser, im sick of it, im just gonna watch it on my dvd player
[11:34]<wxrv_yp>it is a SBlive using ALSA
[11:35]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: i dont know... if everything else is working... then i dont know why your dvd playback doesnt work... i never had to do anything special to play my dvd's on my system...
[11:35]<vrdr00>the_hoser, it is dead set easier for me to download this movie of the internet and play it, then to play the bloody orginal copy!
[11:35]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: isnt that the case with everything else ;-)
[11:36]<vrdr00>the_hoser, yeah you know what, screw it im gonna download the movie.. and it wont be illgeal cause i currently own the movie:D
[11:36]<sfdlldz9>i'm trying to figure out writing my own script for a daemon in /etc/init.d . is it down to the process to write a pid file ? or does start-stop-daemon do that?
[11:36]<vrdr00>bwhaha my plan is genious;)
[11:36]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: i usually use ogle... it works fine most of the time
[11:36]<vrdr00>the_hoser, ill try that first
[11:36]<vzyppym_hugvnz>slippyr4: if the daemon can write its own pid file, let it. otherwise you can ask start-stop-daemon to do it for you
[11:36]<vxn_xjsnz>slippyr4: try pulling apart an initscript that already exists... pick a simple one...
[11:37]<sfdlldz9>i did start with one. but the start command mentions nothing of a pid file, and it magically appears
[11:37]<vzyppym_hugvnz>slippyr4: if you sort the files in /etc/init.d/ by filesize, the simpler ones should be the smallest and provide fine examples
[11:37]<rmzyrrg>does it matter if you connect to irc.freenode.net or .org ??
[11:38]<sfdlldz9>i've kind of got it working, by using --stop --name p4d --signal TERM, but none of the other files do it like this, they all use a pid file
[11:38]<vxn_xjsnz>bah... my desk hates me... i need to build a desk, because all the ones at the furniture stores are uncomfortable...
[11:38]<vxn_xjsnz>i hate having to bend over to type
[11:38]<vzyppym_hugvnz>Adriaan: .org forwards to .net afaik, so i'd go with net
[11:38]<vrdr00>the_hoser, anwyays thanks for your help.. :)
[11:38]<vxn_xjsnz>tama00: np :)
[11:38]<rmzyrrg>Triffid_Hunter, thanks
[11:39]<wxrv_yp>anyone good with ALSA setups ??
[11:39]<vzyppym_hugvnz>what_if: i've played with the config a bit..
[11:39]<2frrarrn>SmileyG: you have a purpose?
[11:39]<vxn_xjsnz>i hate these damnable wrist rests that logitech distributes with their keyboards...
[11:40]<vxn_xjsnz>:-/
[11:40]<wxrv_yp>Triffid_Hunter: ok, my intel HD audio crackels and my SB live will not play when the audio is sent to the default PCM
[11:40]<vrdr00>the_hoser, well i got sound now :)

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