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[12:50]<[lyguw]>maybe i buy pentium :))
[12:50]<myk[1]ee>lol
[12:50]<wxrv_yp>Adriaan: having to compile vnc... almost done
[12:50]<ljwnzw>Hey all, after many many hours of troubleshooting xorg lockups I am now looking at the GPU temperature of my nvidia 6600 which reports via nvclock at being around 71 degrees while idle.....is this normal..?
[12:50]<rmzyrrg>what_if, ok :)
[12:50]<fxugrvx>[linux]: actually, depends on what of xorg you want .. what's the deps?
[12:50]<fxugrvx> Sat Apr 22 18:59:13 2006 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1
[12:50]<fxugrvx> merge time: 4 seconds.
[12:50]<nfnnv10q7>hi All!
[12:50]<fxugrvx>..
[12:51]<kzzvzrys>don't buy pentium just to get xorg to compile faster
[12:51]<rmzyrrg>what_if, dont you have the krfb ?
[12:51]<nfnnv10q7>please help - i got this error message sh: uncompress: command not found
[12:51]<rmzyrrg>what_if, nvm
[12:51]<nfnnv10q7>where i can find uncompress
[12:51]<fxugrvx>efnet3026: install it
[12:51]<fxugrvx>efnet3026: portage
[12:51]<wxrv_yp>Adriaan: yes, but I ony have buttons for sending invitations
[12:51]<tnzjf>emerge ???
[12:51]<tnzjf>which package?
[12:51]<fxugrvx>terol: eix is your friend
[12:52]<fxugrvx>terol: prolly app-arch/mscompress
[12:52]<tnzjf>eix? what is "eix"
[12:52]<tnzjf>emerge app-arch/mscompress
[12:52]<tnzjf>Calculating dependencies
[12:52]<tnzjf>!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-arch/mscompress" have been masked.
[12:52]<tnzjf>!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
[12:52]<tnzjf>- app-arch/mscompress-0.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
[12:53]<tnzjf>ups, sorry :(
[12:53]<rmzyrrg>what_if, ok :)
[12:53]<fjgg>there is one thing I don't understand: when in a restricted shell, I cannot issue command with '/' I have a restricted PATH, cannot modify it .. *but* I can modify ~/.bashrc and then modify the path for the next login? some one can explain this to me?is that normal?
[12:53]<rmzyrrg>what_if, wrong password failure
[13:09]<mzzvxvzmnz>Triffid_Hunter, what do you mean?
[13:09]<vzyppym_hugvnz>DarthVader: exactly what I said
[13:09]<mzzvxvzmnz>Triffid_Hunter, i have a binary installer and i was thinking by doing ./<binary file> to install
[13:10]<2zzvmgg>hi, i have a problem with installing new packages, i have emerged kde, all went well, but now when i try to emerge for exampe krdc it says it conflicts with kde-base/kdenetwork, is it possible to just install krdc instead of recompiling the complete kdenetwork package with krdc includes ?
[13:10]<wxrv_yp>Adriaan: the new Xorg supports auto detection, so if everything works then I would not mess with is
[13:10]<wxrv_yp>*it
[13:10]<vzyppym_hugvnz>bartden: if you have kdenetwork, you already have krdc installed
[13:10]<rmzyrrg>what_if, im doing xorgconfig and it wanted to save the file at /usr/x11r6/
[13:10]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, which failed
[13:11]<fjfunsnr>-Adriaan: Yes, if your lucky and don't have some trange hardware and are happy with the default settings.
[13:11]<aygvwj>+bartden, you should read up on the difference between monolithic and -meta packages. I think there's a "kde meta" entry at gentoo-wiki.org
[13:11]<wxrv_yp>-Adriaan: i think it saves it where it wants to
[13:11]<awnsjdn-jq000>+ok so after I get my stage3 set up, when I want to emerge world to suit my new setup, what is the best emerge option to get my system set up properly? would you reccomend only the newuse option, or should I emerge the whole thing to have it compiled specifically for my system?
[13:11]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Awesome-o2000: i use emerge -avtDNu world for updates
[13:12]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: the best thing is to build specifically for your system but than may take "some" time
[13:12]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Awesome-o2000: followed by dispatch-conf, and revdep-rebuild if necessary
[13:12]<rmzyrrg>-whatif, after xorgconfig there is a file in X11
[13:13]<kzzvzrys>+when I do an emerge -av apache, it doesn't show php. how can I still build apache with php support_
[13:13]<aygvwj>+bartden, found it :-) http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml
[13:13]<wxrv_yp>-Adriaan: good, now if you restart 'X' it should pull that file
[13:13]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea I would PREFER that, I dont mind the time, but I would like the proper emerge option for that
[13:13]<2zzvmgg>+k thx jintxo
[13:13]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Kartagis: dev-lang/php has apache and apache2 use flags
[13:13]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, ok
[13:13]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Kartagis: you may also be interested in php's cli use flag btw
[13:14]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, it highly recommend me to first check that file, so thats what im gonna do first
[13:14]<kzzvzrys>+Triffid_Hunter: I emerged dev-lang/php too
[13:15]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Kartagis: well if you emerged it with the apache2 use flag on, you should be able to use php just by enabling it in /etc/conf.d/apache2 and restarting apache
[13:15]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, so conclusion if xorg.conf does not exist it puts default values somewhere else from, till xorg.conf is created :)
[13:15]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea any suggestions? theres so many options for emerge its mind-boggling for me
[13:15]<awnsjdn-jq000>+Im reading the manual but wow
[13:15]<rjpmpysx>-Adriaan: if you read your X log, it'll tell you the log file
[13:15]<fjfunsnr>-Before you start emergeing double check your use flags in /etc/make.conf and all the other options in there. Expections for packages in /etc/portage/package.keywords and /etc/portage/package.use
[13:15]<rjpmpysx>-it uses a default one
[13:15]<wxrv_yp>-Adriaan: something like that, xorg seems to have a default set of screens and things like that set up and it autodetects the rest
[13:16]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea Im cool - its a fresh install and my make.conf is as I want it to be
[13:16]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea I dont know what nls is though
[13:16]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: think about what the machine should do. What is its function.
[13:16]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Awesome-o2000: grep nls /usr/portage/profiles/use.*
[13:17]<fxugrvx>+awesome-o2000: nls is native language support
[13:17]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: then check the /etc/portage/package.use and /etc/portage/package.use
[13:17]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: followed by a emerge -Udpv world to see what it want to emerge.
[13:17]<fxugrvx>+awesome-o2000: just emerge -av world & look at all the use flags, see if they're all fine, then continue
[13:17]<fxugrvx>+awesome-o2000: euse -i will tell you what a useflag means
[13:17]<fxugrvx>+awesome-o2000: emerge gentoolkit
[13:17]<awnsjdn-jq000>+nice
[13:18]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+lhunath: grep flag /usr/portage/profiles/use.* is a lot quicker than euse fyi ;)
[13:18]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: recall that is emerge uDpv world
[13:18]<fjfunsnr>-Awesome-o2000: note the Caps D
[13:18]<wxrv_yp>-Adriaan: if you are still around I found a way to start a second X server
[13:18]<fxugrvx>+triffid_hunter: hm, prolly =p
[13:18]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, i am aroun d;)
[13:18]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, how to?
[13:19]<wxrv_yp>-Adriaan: in a console type "startx -- :1" and it will run the new xserver on vt8 and leave this one alone (since it works :) )
[13:19]<crvjc>+Is there anyway to split half of a text file off at a certain line?
[13:20]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, thats a good test ;)
[13:20]<wxrv_yp>-indeed &tm
[13:20]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+kavok: you can use head and tail
[13:20]<wxrv_yp>-;
[13:20]<crvjc>+Triffid_Hunter: Ahh head and tail. Of course. What is head and tail? :)
[13:21]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea Im not looking to upgrade - just to recompile this stage 3 specifically for this system
[13:21]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+kavok: head prints the first lines of a file. tail prints the last ones
[13:21]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+kavok: it defaults to 20 lines, but you can tell it how many you want
[13:21]<dnp>-Ok, this is just weird... How can I make sure that the dbus session is started when a user logs in?
[13:21]<awnsjdn-jq000>+loquesea apologies - I copied your typo! lol
[13:22]<crvjc>+Triffid_Hunter: So "cat textfile | tail something? > newtext ?
[13:22]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+kavok: read the manpage and have a play ;)
[13:22]<rmzyrrg>-what_if, hey my borders and moving things goes more smoothly







