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[13:37]<sfdlldz9>+are there any free alternatives to NX for remote desktop? other than VNC, cos that has a whole bunch of issues
[13:38]<vyffyrs>-I've also added all needed hosts to make.conf
[13:38]<xjffjwsjuf>+MsK`, latest xorg-server = change driver abi/api and nvidia havent upgraded there driver yet. u need to downgrade till nvidia fixes thier driver
[13:38]<rfprrruyr>-MsK`: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
[13:38]<crfjjxg>-slippyr4: freenx? or is that what you mean?
[13:38]<vyffyrs>-but it don't want to any fetch patches
[13:38]<msk`>+hollowsoul: ok thanks
[13:38]<crvjc>+I remember maybe a year ago going into a gaim room and asking if they supported webcams, they said no, I said why not, and I almost got flamed out of the channel. lol.
[13:38]<awnsjdn-jq000>+hollowsoul please tell me you arent saying the latest nvidia driver is broken with the current gentoo release
[13:39]<ajdffnwdvd>-anyone know how i can make linux see my xbox game in my dvd drive so i can back it up
[13:39]<vyffyrs>-The other strange thing is that emerge-delta-webrsync fetch new snapshot
[13:39]<vyffyrs>-if I clear /var/delta... dir
[13:39]<awnsjdn-jq000>+kavok gyache-enhanced - live it, love it.
[13:39]<rfprrruyr>-kavok: the gaim fanboys are assholes. Don't even go there. There is support in 2.0 but if you can put up with the crashes...
[13:39]<crvjc>+gyache-enhanced = ?
[13:39]<crfjjxg>-kavok: heh. i can imagine having to struggle and reverse engineer everything must make them edgey.
[13:39]<ajdffnwdvd>-right now when i mount the game all i see is the video files
[13:39]<awnsjdn-jq000>+kavok webcam in yahoo for linux, good stuff
[13:40]<vyffyrs>-any ideas?
[13:40]<2frrarrn>+ElPenguin: language.
[13:40]<sfdlldz9>+caljohn: isn't freenx commerical?
[13:40]<rfprrruyr>-CalJohn: only on y!, the rest have published specs
[13:40]<rrxjjv>+complexity: dd if=/dev/dvd?
[13:40]<crvjc>+Most of the people I know are on msn anyways.
[13:40]<crfjjxg>-slippyr4: hmmm...i thought not
[13:40]<rfprrruyr>-blackace: sorry.
[13:40]<ajdffnwdvd>-cahoot: what do you mean?
[13:40]<rrxjjv>+complexity: does dd 'see' it?
[13:41]<ajdffnwdvd>-cahoot: dd?
[13:41]<wjznm>+is there any howto how to get the i915 DRi running on a gentoo system ?
[13:41]<xjffjwsjuf>+Awesome-o2000, its not gentoo. nvidia havent updated there drivers for latest xorg-server-1.0.99.903 (since they changed driver api/abi). not to mention to use xorg7 u need to unmask to get it to install in gentoo.
[13:41]<crfjjxg>-slippyr4: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx
[13:41]<crvjc>+I wish IDE was hot-swappable
[13:41]<crvjc>+:(
[13:41]<crvjc>+brb
[13:41]<awnsjdn-jq000>+hollowsoul is xorg7 standard for gentoo now?
[13:41]<crfjjxg>-slippyr4: first 2 lines
[13:41]<vyffyrs>-hmm but is there any person who use emerge-delta-webrsync?
[13:41]<xjffjwsjuf>+Awesome-o2000, not yet
[13:41]<ajdffnwdvd>-cahoot: you want me to enter dd if=/dev/hda
[13:42]<awnsjdn-jq000>+no biggie then
[13:42]<rfprrruyr>-Awesome-o2000: no, it's still ~platform
[13:42]<rrxjjv>+complexity: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/test.img or such
[13:42]<rfprrruyr>-cahoot: yes, just like that
[13:42]<rrxjjv>+complexity: pure speculation mind you
[13:42]<awnsjdn-jq000>+ElPenguin id only use it to try out xgl now, and from what ive heard xgl is mucho buggy
[13:43]<awnsjdn-jq000>+sure looks nice though
[13:43]<rfprrruyr>-Awesome-o2000: xgl isn't all that great, it's buggy as hell and it really isn't as fast as we were promised. However, some of those effects look kinda swish
[13:43]<fyfuynd>+Awesome-o2000, i bet that were ati users :)
[13:43]<sljjwg>-Hello all, does anyone is good with grep ? I have a problem, and don't understand it , strange...
[13:43]<awnsjdn-jq000>+ElPenguin if one has a raging nice nvidia card would it perform better?
[13:44]<crfjjxg>-spoown: just ask the question ;)
[13:44]<fyfuynd>+ElPenguin, disagreed, what is slow? what is buggy? well, i have no compiz crash since days *g*
[13:44]<rfprrruyr>-Awesome-o2000: nope, a friend of mine has just that and he's umimpressed
[13:45]<fyfuynd>+Awesome-o2000, you habe definitly less problems with a nvidia card
[13:45]<rfprrruyr>-liquiem: the whole interface was promised to be quicker, it's a touch slower, there are too many crashes. If you haven't had them, great, but others have
[13:45]<awnsjdn-jq000>+ElPenguin so it doesnt work as wonderfully as in that oh-so-impressive video?
[13:45]<rfprrruyr>-Awesome-o2000: you know those videos are propaganda right? It probably crashed right afterwards
[13:45]<awnsjdn-jq000>+WEAK!
[13:45]<ajdffnwdvd>-cahoot: nope idont think it works
[13:45]<awnsjdn-jq000>+that video made it look SO cool
[13:46]<awnsjdn-jq000>+like the best thing ever for a desktop
[13:46]<dja|xjdn>+Awesome-o2000: ati drivers under linux are notoriously crap
[13:46]<awnsjdn-jq000>+when that is stable, MS is toast
[13:46]<fyfuynd>+ElPenguin, yeah maybe because want something that isnt recommended, like kde or e17 with xgl or something like that
[13:46]<dja|xjdn>+topic please everyone
[13:46]<awnsjdn-jq000>+doc|home I know - thats why I bought a new nvidia card when I had a x800gto
[13:46]<rfprrruyr>-doc|home: tell me about it. They panic my kernel and the opensource ones don't support my card. I had to find some cvs ones i can't get working
[13:46]<fyfuynd>+yes, put the xgl talk in #xgl please
[13:47]<dja|xjdn>+or #gentoo-xgl
[13:47]<afnw|>+drwx-----T <- what does the T mean?
[13:47]<fyfuynd>+right, sorry :)
[13:47]<dja|xjdn>+np :)
[13:47]<rjpmpysx>-sticky bit?
[13:47]<awnsjdn-jq000>+ElPenguin you mean youve been telling me this about the ATI drivers?
[13:47]<rfprrruyr>-Alex|: it's the sticky bit
[13:47]<2frrarrn>+Alex|: man chmod
[13:47]<sljjwg>-CalJohn, so i have a file, and on each line there is 6 digit , and i want only to match lines begining with , by instance 020000 , so, my command with grep is : " grep '^020*' myfile " and it matches more than the lines beginning with 020 , so, what's the problem ?? any idea ? and i'm sure that there is such lines beginnig with 020 !
[13:48]<afnw|>+ah k....
[13:48]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+spoown: try egrep
[13:48]<rfprrruyr>-Awesome-o2000: no, my friend has the nvidia ones with a beasty card. However, I'm about to go for breakfast, so let's desist with the xgl talk
[13:48]<yzcubyc>+spoown: that's match anything beginning with "02"
[13:48]<dyrdrr>+I think XGL is overhyped. It looks awesome, no question about that. But how does it make things any better? It won't help getting your work done.
[13:48]<afnw>+What an annoying nick. :-)
[13:48]<yzcubyc>+spoown: cause you're applying the * to the 0, so "zero or more 0's after this"
[13:48]<sdyfnz>+spoown: the last 0 will be optional, ryp 0+
[13:48]<sdyfnz>+s/ryp/try/
[13:49]<crfjjxg>-micmac: exactly my issue
[13:49]<yzcubyc>+<3 homerow =p
[13:49]<dyrdrr>+:)
[13:49]<ajdffnwdvd>-any ideas how i can backup my xbox game with linux?
[13:49]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+or just don't have a modifier at all... '^020'
[13:49]<dyrdrr>+CalJohn, I guess we're not alone with this thought.
[13:49]<yzcubyc>+or that :p
[13:49]<dja|xjdn>+micmac: people like shiny. That nothing useful can't be done with it now doesn't mean it won't open the way for something in the future. People once thought GUIs were pointless :)
[13:49]<crfjjxg>-micmac: fluxbox works fine, and xgl doesn't offer any new features
[13:49]<crfjjxg>-doc|home: i kinda still do
[13:49]<rfprrruyr>-doc|home: isn't that the idea behind looking glass?
[13:50]<yzcubyc>+I'd get annoyed by all the wobbling... xD
[13:50]<dja|xjdn>+looking glass isn't xgl based afaik but yeah, it's all the same

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