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[18:22]<rr2jj>+whats the diffrence between sylpheed and sylpheed claws
[18:22]<lupveyr>+szenti, thanks
[18:22]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: and you'll probably need to configure acpid, or something similar to detect when the lid is open/closed and then turn the backlight back on
[18:23]<xdfan>+can someone say why X starts with xdm although DISPLAYMANAGER is "gdm"
[18:23]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: only db-4.4 is hard masked so, if you've confirmed that subversion does break with db-4.3, then I would definitely condone such a bug and this solution :)
[18:23]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+hylje: do you have gdm installed?
[18:23]<xdfan>+hmm, lemme check
[18:24]<xdfan>+*sigh* :)
[18:24]<xdfan>+thanks
[18:24]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: I'm not, but I will watch the bug in any case :)
[18:24]<xdfan>+could someone add to the GNOME configuration HOWTO that gnome-light does not install gdm
[18:24]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: The dell isnt the backlight going off, its the entire screen.. If that changes anything
[18:24]<sazmlvmvxncmmqc7>-is it true that a stage3 install will take me approx 2-3 days on a P4 2.6Ghz, 512 ram ?
[18:25]<2jgsrycyvvgg>+scriptythekid2k6, no
[18:25]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: I have a dell laptop I know what it does, you'll need vbetool and acpid
[18:25]<dja|xjdn>+scriptythekid2k6: depends on what you install
[18:25]<xdfan>+scriptythekid2k6: no, i installed the base system in about three hours of compiling (3.0GHz tho)
[18:25]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: even better would be to figure out why it doesn't work with db-4.3. but db is, in general, a pain in the backside and it does tend to take a while to stabilise new versions.
[18:25]<2jgsrycyvvgg>+scriptythekid2k6, it depends on what you install ... I expect a base system to take ~12h on that machine
[18:25]<sazmlvmvxncmmqc7>-doc|home: gnome...etc
[18:25]<dja|xjdn>+scriptythekid2k6: for a base install you should be done in an hour or two. then compile of X plus other apps
[18:25]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: Just emerge those?
[18:25]<xdfan>+GNOME took slightly longer tho :)
[18:25]<dja|xjdn>+scriptythekid2k6: those will take longer but it's a decent spec machine
[18:25]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: you'll need to configure them as well, but it's not very hard, i can show you my scripts if you give me a moment
[18:25]<v1vv0z>+anyone know how to get a xmms plugin to compile for audacious?
[18:26]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: Sure :)
[18:26]<sazmlvmvxncmmqc7>-doc|home: thx
[18:26]<dja|xjdn>+np
[18:26]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: ah, I see. I misunderstood you - I had thought that you were originally complaining that subversion wouldn't arbitrarily use db-4.3 on a stable system.
[18:26]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: acpid can also be configured to sleep/power off/etc.. when the corresponding buttons are pressed, basically it listens for acpi events and executes commands based on them
[18:26]<wjfrgm_>+has anyone sucessfully compiled sebek on gentoo?
[18:27]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: for now just emerge vbetool and acpid
[18:27]<wjfrgm_>+i keep getting arphrd_ether undeclared even though i have libnet installed
[18:28]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: hmm ... have you seen bug 98688
[18:28]<annvns>+kerframil: http://bugs.gentoo.org/98688 nor, P2, All, nakano@gentoo.org->pauldv@gentoo.org, NEW, pending, subversion with db-4.3
[18:28]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: Ok, done
[18:28]<dzsfjgd>-Hey! I updated the kernel and after rebooting, my network card wont work. I get an error: "eth0 does not exist". Now I am using the older kernel, so I suppose I didnt install some needed driver. How do I check which driver Im currently using for the card so I will know what to select when recompiling the kernel?
[18:28]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: it's quite an old bug but you might be able to glean something useful from it (and it is relevant)
[18:28]<vzrcygrs>+morning!
[18:29]<asvpyfjv>-DrSlony: try lsmod
[18:29]<dzsfjgd>-and what must I look for in lsmod?
[18:29]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: # vbetool dpms on
[18:29]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: interesting
[18:29]<asvpyfjv>-make sure the module to your interface is there (is it wireless?)
[18:29]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: that will turn the screen back on, might want to just type that into a terminal and close, open, press enter and see that it actually works
[18:29]<dzsfjgd>-its not wireless
[18:29]<vzrcygrs>+guys, I was siulating Gentoo install and saw it had CFLAG configuration. Im not used to it and there arent any references on the install guide Ive got. Is there any guide on gentoo.org which talks about this?
[18:30]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: if you can do the groundwork in terms of finding (or at least pointing towards) a solution before filing that would be great
[18:30]<cnzpzrdyf>+IceD^: well, good luck with it. I'm off for now :)
[18:30]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+trakinas: man gcc
[18:30]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: Im doing emerge -e world right now so I'd rather not test it just quite yet :(
[18:31]<gyv_jgn_vxznn>-hay all, I seek a HOWTO for FREENX
[18:31]<fyfuynd>+trakinas, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5#doc_chap5
[18:31]<2jgsrycyvvgg>+trakinas, I think the installation handbook gives you good defaults
[18:31]<dzsfjgd>-cstPilot: the following entries are used when I type lsmod: parport, dm_mod, libata, ieee1394, usbcore. Is it one of them?
[18:31]<vzrcygrs>+bonsaikitten, alroght. I just got a bit worried...
[18:31]<zncsnzs>+is DRI supported by my GeForce 2 ?
[18:31]<vzrcygrs>+liquiem, Im using dialog install. lol
[18:31]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: http://pastebin.com/728221
[18:32]<2jgsrycyvvgg>+trakinas, usually the defaults work, so don't worry too much about tweaking everything
[18:32]<asvpyfjv>-DrSlony: Im not an expert but I dont think so.
[18:32]<asvpyfjv>-DrSlony: Check your kernel again?
[18:32]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: Thanks mate :)
[18:32]<vzrcygrs>+bonsaikitten, okay.
[18:32]<fyfuynd>+trakinas, start gpm and paste it into another console with links infront
[18:32]<dzsfjgd>-cstPilot: but theres so many options there that I assume I do not need to be installed, how do I know exactly what to look for?
[18:32]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: it works perfectly fine with my inspiron 6000, so it should work for you as well
[18:32]<gyv_jgn_vxznn>-I got two LANs behind two NATs. I established VPN from one pc on LAN1 to another on LAN2, can I send UDP from a different pc in LAN1 to LAN2?
[18:33]<asvpyfjv>-DrSlony: What is your computer/network card?
[18:33]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: You have an I6K? Did you get the media buttons and SD reader to work?
[18:33]<dzsfjgd>-when I do 'dmesg' one of the last entries says 'eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01043:80a7 bound to 0000:00:04.0'
[18:33]<srmnm>+IS there a xchat or a irssi script or bot that I can get to enter auto away mode that auto pm's someone that pm's me and changes my nick?
[18:33]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: yes media buttons work, sd reader will work with linux 2.6.17
[18:33]<asvpyfjv>-ok
[18:33]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+DrSlony: that'll be your nvidia ethernet controller then
[18:34]<dzsfjgd>-forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.48.
[18:34]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: by the way, that pastebin is kernel config?
[18:34]<dzsfjgd>-Yes, nVidia
[18:34]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: no :S
[18:34]<vzrcygrs>+one last question: I have one extanded partition with 10GB separated. I already have a Swap partition and a /home partition. If I tell to gentoo to alocate it's space will it use only the free 10GB? will it create another /swap?
[18:34]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: the things surrounded by ** are files, and below is that contents of that file
[18:34]<frgscrlnv>-hmm isn't it possible to install the genkern 2.6.15 instead of .16 ??
[18:34]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: just fill them in the same way I have start the acpid server
[18:34]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+trakinas: it'll do whatever you tell it to
[18:34]<sdscj>+Would there be any IPsec GUI for gnome ?
[18:34]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: ok
[18:35]<frgscrlnv>-USE="-doc symlink" emerge gentoo-sources just downloads the .16 one
[18:35]<vzrcygrs>+okay.... I will be back later. have to go now. cheers all! and thanks
[18:35]<asvpyfjv>-dystopianray: how did you get the media keys to work?
[18:36]<zncsnzs>+is DRI supported by my GeForce 2 ?
[18:36]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+Fanskapet: try emerge -avt '~sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15'
[18:36]<gyv_jgn_vxznn>-ok, what networking chanel should I trun to seek VPN routing help?
[18:36]<dtgjzd>+does anyone know if the image.squashfs can be edited in order to make a custom boot disk?
[18:36]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+cstPilot: use xmodmap to map the keycodes to keysymbols, then you can configure kde/gnome/blah to do whatever you want with the keys
[18:36]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+DTGorm: i can't see why not
[18:36]<dtgjzd>+ive tried opening up the file and its all like encrypted
[18:37]<dtgjzd>+or its raw code
[18:37]<dzsfjgd>-genkernel --help
[18:37]<dzsfjgd>-oops :]







