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[19:31]<rfjgvu>-sorry for flooding
[19:31]<rghrvggs>+cahoot, i only speak spanglish =)
[19:32]<rrxjjv>+RNHavens: tough luck
[19:32]<dzsfjgd>-ANdrewMac: I have no idea, but take a look here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
[19:32]<fyfuynd>+glontu, hd0,0 is your boot partition, so you have a /boot/boot/vmlinuz
[19:32]<fyfuynd>+remove the /boot infront of vmlinuz and it should work
[19:33]<rfjgvu>-oke ... thanks liquiem
[19:33]<dzsfjgd>-I feel like a game of good old Colonization.
[19:33]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+liquiem: no, /boot/boot is a symlink to .., so it should work
[19:34]<rfjgvu>-i've checked in the handbook
[19:35]<ascq>-How would I go about configuring my Gentoo installation to not have such fuzzy antialiased fonts?
[19:35]<rfjgvu>-they have configured grub in the same way
[19:35]<rfjgvu>-with /boot/vmlinuz....
[19:35]<rfjgvu>-so ... if it's not this ... what can it be ?
[19:35]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: you'll have to configure X to not antialiase the fonts
[19:35]<ascq>-I'm playing around with my .Xdefaults file, with Xft.antialias and whatnot, but whenever I have antialiasing turned on, they're fuzzy -- is there any way to turn down the antialiasing a little bit so they look sharper?
[19:36]<ascq>-dystopianray, well I'd like *some* antialiasing, but it seems they're too antialiased right now.
[19:36]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: I think you just need to turn the hinting level down or something?
[19:36]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: oh wait, you're not talking about sub pixel rendering are you?
[19:36]<rjj2m_rjm>-After I install gentoo and I just do 'emerge flucbox', what else do I have to emerge?
[19:37]<rjj2m_rjm>-*fluxbox
[19:37]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+nooby_god: you'll have to emerge whatever programs you want
[19:37]<rjj2m_rjm>-yeah, any recomendations?
[19:37]<2fun2yzm__>+like xchat, firefox, opera and so on
[19:37]<rnmznwmra>-Can somoene help me with ATI-Drivers error??????
[19:37]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac: follow the ati guide in the gentoo desktop documentation
[19:37]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+nooby_god: firefox ?
[19:37]<rjj2m_rjm>-Like a filemanager or a system resources monitor?
[19:38]<ascq>-dystopianray, I'm not sure what sub pixel rendering is
[19:38]<rnmznwmra>-dystopianray can you send me a link i hvae been looking for that guide for 20 mins or so
[19:38]<ascq>-jsk2, I'm just trying to the fonts in my applications to be less fuzzy
[19:38]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
[19:39]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: make them larger
[19:39]<ascq>-dystopianray, well I changed the DPI all the way up to 256 just to see how they'd look, and they're still noticably fuzzy
[19:40]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: crt or lcd monitor?
[19:40]<pjzsrcgg>+anyone know why my sound in flash only works when i start firefox without any other sound playing app open? and if i use anything else while using ff - it stops
[19:40]<ascq>-dystopianray, ah, that might make a difference.. I turned the font size up and the DPI down, and they look slightly sharper now
[19:40]<ascq>-dystopianray, CRT
[19:40]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+forsaken: it probably wants to mmap /dev/dsp and you don't have hardware mixing
[19:41]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: some crts can get pretty blurry at high resolutions
[19:41]<ascq>-dystopianray, ah
[19:41]<rnmznwmra>-with amd64 radeon 9800... Can i use Emerge x11-drm???
[19:42]<rrxjjv>+jsk2: I might be wrong but as I understand it you don't want subpixel rendering on a crt
[19:42]<dzsfjgd>-If I have 2 tabs open in GNOME Terminal, and irssi is in the first, then what shortcut keys can I use to switch to a different window in irssi? alt+2 switches tabs, not irssi windows/
[19:42]<igvwsw2fn>+I tried doing an emerge -uDN world on this box. glibc said it couldn't comple because gcc was too old. I used gcc-config to select 3.4.6. Now emerge -u world segfaults and so does gcc-config! I did an env-update and source /etc/profile
[19:42]<igvwsw2fn>+what gives?
[19:43]<fyfuynd>+jsk2, cahoot is right, AA on crt isnt needed, turn it off. your crt is the best subpixel engine you can get ^^
[19:43]<rnmznwmra>-It says i need to disable or modularize DRM in kernal config... anyone help me with that please?
[19:43]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac: go to the kernel config entry, and press either 'n' to disable it or 'm' to modularize it
[19:43]<ascq>-liquiem, well then they look all blocky without it, even on my CRT
[19:43]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: you need to follow the gcc migration guide
[19:44]<rnmznwmra>-dystopianray: How do i get there
[19:44]<fyfuynd>+jsk2, gnome or kde?
[19:44]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac: you don't know how to configure a kernel?
[19:44]<ascq>-liquiem, well I'm using Gnome applications, but I'm not using Gnome itself.
[19:44]<rnmznwmra>-no i did it a long time ago
[19:45]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac: cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig
[19:45]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
[19:45]<fyfuynd>+jsk2, you dont use sans as font, do you?
[19:45]<ascq>-liquiem, Bitstream Vera Sans, yes
[19:46]<dzsfjgd>-ANdrewMac: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/genkernel.xml
[19:47]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+DrSlony: he might not be using genkernel
[19:47]<ascq>-liquiem, would you like me to send you an image of what my fonts look like without antialiasing?
[19:47]<igvwsw2fn>+dystopianray, well if I've all ready done gcc-config to the new version, is there any way to go back?
[19:47]<igvwsw2fn>+gcc-config keeps seg faulting!
[19:47]<]tla[>+hi & help! im trying to build cacti and think i need to put "LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so" into my apache httpd.conf file. Problem is, I can't find libphp5.so - should this have been built by emerge cacti? Any ideas if I do need this or not for PHP/Apache from gentoo portage?
[19:47]<fyfuynd>+jsk, hold on, but it'll be pur gnome, so dont know if it's comparable :)
[19:47]<igvwsw2fn>+and so does cp and ls and every other command
[19:47]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: gcc-config is not enough to migrate gcc, read that guide i showed you
[19:48]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: but i suspect you have screwed your system
[19:48]<igvwsw2fn>+dystopianray, there's gotta be a way to get back to a usuable state
[19:48]<igvwsw2fn>+it's a remote system
[19:48]<ascq>-liquiem, as you can see they're terrible
[19:48]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: hehe i think the fact that it's remote is going to result in even more trouble
[19:49]<dzsfjgd>-dystopianray: I just used genkernel and it edited grub.conf and wrote "initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7" however there is no file like that in /boot, only initrd-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7. Is this a bug or am I just stupid?
[19:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+Inv1s1ble: did you unmerge the old gcc or something?
[19:49]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>+Inv1s1ble, it sounds like you glibc is broken
[19:49]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+]TLA[: equery f php | grep module should tell you where it is
[19:49]<rnmznwmraw>-sorry, dystopianray: it looks familiary, but how do i find the ARM that i need to modularize
[19:49]<rnmznwmraw>-drm*
[19:49]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+]TLA[: php's apache2 use flag installs it
[19:49]<dzsfjgd>-there is a file called initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 that was created during the liveCD installation, but the new one that was created is called initrd, not initramfs.
[19:49]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+ANdrewMac1: i think it's in the character devices section of the device drivers section
[19:50]<]tla[>+Triffid_Hunter: thx, ill check it out
[19:50]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+DrSlony: didn't i tell you that initrd and initramfs mean the same thing several hours ago?
[19:50]<dzsfjgd>-yes yes
[19:50]<rrxjjv>+jsk2: got a ~/.fonts.conf? - if so try rename it to fonts.conf.old and see what gives
[19:51]<dzsfjgd>-but Im saying that genkernel created by default a file under a different name and so I suppose grub will give an error that there is no initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.16-gentoo-r7
[19:51]<vzyppym_hugvnz>+DrSlony: you could call it affluent_monkey-bubble if you wanted, and as long as you pointed grub at it properly, it would work fine
[19:51]<ascq>-cahoot, nope, no .fonts.conf file.
[19:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+jsk2: maybe you need glasses?
[19:51]<ascq>-dystopianray, I have glasses :)
[19:51]<ggmmdsgrrjjg>+Inv1s1ble, You should have busybox, which does not need gliibc. Put busybox in fron of commands like cp and ls
[19:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+haha
[19:51]<dzsfjgd>-Yes, and thats what Im saying, genkernel doesnt point at it properly, is this a genkernel erorr?
[19:51]<igvwsw2fn>+NeddySeagoon, tried busybox..still segfaults
[19:51]<mdsvjldzgzzd>+rofl
[19:52]<scugcd>+DrSlony: please post your grub.conf to a pastebin site somewhere.
[19:52]<igvwsw2fn>+it's fuxored..I'll have to reinstall
[19:52]<rnmznwmraw>-dystopianray: Thanks got it, i used M. Which one should i use do you think. And when saving the settings do i just go to save to alternate file at the bottom?

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