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[23:42]<cgjllyw>-chroot nad install? make ?
[23:42]<addddncf>+jevangelo: lsusb -v
[23:42]<xfyg2gzdrg>+The problem fixes itself if I don't do a deep update, but... I want to do a deep update! :)
[23:42]<ry2j>+knoppix, why can't you chroot into your gentoo installation directory and do `emerge <packagename>` ?
[23:42]<sdzzajw>-anyone good with cups? when i click on "add printer" in the webinterface i get a permission denied
[23:42]<zjznztt>+knoppix, cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
[23:42]<tdrg>+is there a flag for emerge -C that keeps it from giving up if it sees a package that isn't installed?
[23:43]<sdzzajw>-i guess the problem is that its not asking for my root passwd
[23:43]<zjznztt>+knoppix, or wherever your gentoo is mounted, mount proc there as well, then chroot /mnt/gentoo
[23:43]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-smarcow: that would do it
[23:43]<zjznztt>+knoppix, then emerge -f whatever you want to get the distfiles downloaded, then emerge what you want
[23:43]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-smarcow: do you have KDE installed?
[23:43]<rzrrc2r2d>+can anyone help me get hal to automount CDrom?
[23:43]<xrds>-sdparm, maybe so... I'm going to try to upgrade my kernel to see if that helps... I've got .14 right now
[23:43]<dnvy>+is there any mirror that carries subarch-specific stage3-tarballs?
[23:43]<mrvrs>+smarcow: I think that it's disabled by default in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[23:43]<zjznztt>+Tman, emerge -Cp first
[23:44]<zjznztt>+yeti, not for 2006.0
[23:44]<cgjllyw>-i will try thanks
[23:44]<zjznztt>+yeti, x86, i586 and i686 is all.
[23:44]<sdzzajw>-Matas, you mean the authentication?
[23:44]<dnvy>+roger55: so i should download i686? can i still use march=athlon-xp in my make.conf though?
[23:45]<zjznztt>+yeti, yes.
[23:45]<mrvrs>+smarcow: yes, but I speak of memory
[23:45]<rgvjsecr>+Hi guys, being a pretty seasoned user got one today that puzzles me -- on a newly setup gentoo system, xorg wouldn't load the keymap with an error like this: (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap -- any ideas here?
[23:45]<zjznztt>+yeti, it is -march= though
[23:45]<tdrg>+roger55: I have a list of 295 packages that *may* be installed - I'm trying to downgrade x.org7. Is there any other way?
[23:45]<zjznztt>+Tman, ugh
[23:45]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: what keymap are you trying to load?
[23:45]<znmfnzznz>-Miffentrop: man these all require a damn floppy disk, I haven't used a floppy disk in like 4 years
[23:45]<dnvy>+roger55: yeah, i know :) thank you very much
[23:45]<rgvjsecr>+Robstafarian: pl
[23:45]<zjznztt>+Tman, why do you want to do that?
[23:46]<tdrg>+roger55: because it crashes and performs very badly on my system
[23:46]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: did you specify it using xorgconfig or the like?
[23:46]<sdzzajw>-Robstafarian, kde? i have kdebase installed, why?
[23:46]<rgvjsecr>+Robstafarian: I surely did. The whole keyboard section is copied verbatim, from a running system next to this new one.
[23:47]<zjznztt>+Tman, why not generate a list of what *is* installed?
[23:47]<mrvrs>+smarcow: on the bottom of the vanilla cupsd.conf you find <Location /admin>
[23:47]<mrvrs>+which is deny by default
[23:47]<mrvrs>+unless localhost
[23:47]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-smarcow: KDE has an app, I think it's in kdeadmin, that you can use to add a printer to CUPS. It will use the standard kdesu to prompt for authentification.
[23:47]<tdrg>+roger55: that would work.. if you could help me ;)
[23:48]<myllggvzjl>+redlegger: these what?
[23:48]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: is the running system significantly older, software wise, than the new system?
[23:48]<mrvrs>+smarcow: Are you trying to admin from localhost?
[23:48]<sdzzajw>-Matas, that was it, thx alot :)
[23:48]<sdzzajw>-Matas, no, remote :)
[23:48]<mrvrs>+ah
[23:48]<duzycs_>-Anyone know how to fix this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133400
[23:48]<adjurrww>+how can I see which version of gentoo I have?
[23:49]<cgjllyw>-bye bye
[23:49]<adjurrww>+not kernel but gentoo
[23:49]<mrvrs>+jyoungxx: no such thing
[23:49]<zjznztt>+Tman, I don't know of an accurate way, to get only parts of modular X
[23:49]<znmfnzznz>-Miffentrop: nevermind, it wanted it for resizing a partition and preserving the data, but i don't need to do that... still working on it
[23:49]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: I would think you could do that automatically. Use the files you have listed in package.keywords to uninstall Xorg7 .. then remove those files. Issue a "emerge -u world", followed by a revdep-rebuild and you should be good to go.
[23:49]<tdrg>+roger55: I really want all of modular X
[23:49]<zjznztt>+Tman, eix -CcI x11 | awk {'print $2'} might be a start
[23:49]<2fun2yzm__>+jyoungxx: you can see which profile you are using by: file /etc/make.profile
[23:50]<xrds>-does anyone here have experience with SATA and RAID?
[23:50]<xrds>-I'm trying to troubleshoot blinding slowness
[23:50]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: "then remove those files" means those lines from package.keywords .. but on re-reading, I must be misunderstanding your question
[23:50]<zjznztt>+Tman, it will contain other stuff that you don't want to unmerge!
[23:50]<tdrg>+chance2105: that's exactly what I'm doing, but that list contains packages I don't even that
[23:50]<rgvjsecr>+Robstafarian: nope, same release of xorg-x11 (stable). the old system constantly updated.
[23:50]<tdrg>+chance2105: don't even have*
[23:51]<sdzzajw>-naive question: why dont wlans use ipsec?
[23:51]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: Well, just unmerge them. emerge will just gripe about it not being present .. and you will know, and move on to the next package.
[23:51]<rgvjsecr>+smarcow: it's extremely complex to set up
[23:51]<zjznztt>+Tman, or take that list, feed it to my command
[23:51]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: I'd compare the whole of each xorg.conf
[23:51]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: failing some obvious omission, I'd try rebulding xorg
[23:51]<sdzzajw>-antarus, i dont know anything about it really, but wouln't it make a pretty secure wlan?
[23:52]<rxrgrnqw0t>+ACTION is so not a shell person
[23:52]<rgvjsecr>+Robstafarian: Well, I just built it ;). With same USE flags.
[23:52]<rxrgrnqw0t>+ACTION is shell-phobic
[23:52]<tdrg>+chance2105: no.. portage gives up then and there.
[23:52]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: Yeah, you'll have to issue the unmerge for each one manually.
[23:52]<vuwyac>-chance2105: many people get intimidated by text!
[23:52]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-antoszka: I understand, but after 3 years with Gentoo I've learned that sometimes rebuilding just works
[23:52]<vuwyac>-the tv generation!
[23:52]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: Or wrap it somehow in shell code that restarts emerge with "emerge --resume --skipfirst"
[23:53]<rgvjsecr>+smarcow: perhaps it would, but WPA properly set up (so called wpa-enterprise) you can have a very good level of security.
[23:53]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-tuxick: I'm listening to a Fraggle Rock mp3 right now 8?}
[23:53]<twnd_>+Hey all... anyone had problems with SWT after the latest update?
[23:53]<rgvjsecr>+smarcow: at link level
[23:53]<tdrg>+chance2105: aha.. that should do it
[23:53]<vuwyac>-Robstafarian :)
[23:53]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-tuxick: ...while using irssi
[23:53]<twnd_>+After the latest update, it gives me: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove
[23:54]<nmunmyw>-which app of imagemagick used for background ?
[23:54]<tdrg>+roger55 and chance2105: thanks :)
[23:54]<rgvjsecr>+Robstafarian: yeah, i've used gentoo for about four years now probably, but my intuition says it's something else. nothing significant has changed since I built xorg-x11, so rebuilding it in an identical environment probably doesn't make sense.
[23:54]<zjznztt>+Tman, be careful!
[23:54]<zj2svzpzzyzg>-hehe, ever wonder if agoraphobics are more comfortable with the console?
[23:54]<rxrgrnqw0t>+Tman: np
[23:54]<rrxjjv>+eduedix: display?
[23:54]<rxzysrw>+Hey peeps =)
[23:54]<tdrg>+roger55: yes?







