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[13:42]<mnvrpxrnn>ya... reading helps too
[13:42]<mzzvxvzmnz>Dead_One, _cyanide, stage3-i686-2006.0.tar.bz2
[13:42]<vj2djjw>reading what?
[13:43]<vj2djjw>all the documentation on the site?
[13:43]<_rmrgymn>tobmoox, kernel recompilation is easy
[13:43]<_rmrgymn>its actually in the gentoo handbook in the installation process
[13:43]<mgrm_ogg>did you use a portage-latest tarball as well ?
[13:43]<mnvrpxrnn>tobmoox, well 11 years ago i had a book on linux that was all the man pages and the network admin guide and the system admin guide and the users guide... i read all of that
[13:44]<_rmrgymn>other things, in the forums -> forums.gentoo.org, wiki -> www.gentoo-wiki.com, and of course the main site -> www.gentoo.org
[13:44]<vj2djjw>oh ok
[13:44]<mnvrpxrnn>tobmoox, then i went to barnes and nobles and got more linux books
[13:44]<mnvrpxrnn>:D
[13:44]<vj2djjw>i read ummm
[13:44]<vj2djjw>linux for the beginning mage
[13:44]<_rmrgymn>what was linux like 11 years ago?
[13:44]<vj2djjw>thats about it lol
[13:44]<_rmrgymn>lol
[13:44]<mnvrpxrnn>not pretty
[13:44]<mnvrpxrnn>:D
[13:44]<mnvrpxrnn>mostly slackware
[13:45]<mnvrpxrnn>suse
[13:45]<_rmrgymn>slack has been around THAT long?
[13:45]<mnvrpxrnn>slack is the first
[13:45]<vj2djjw>and some other beginning books..i havent read any man pages yet though
[13:45]<_rmrgymn>tobmoox, man pages suck :P
[13:45]<mnvrpxrnn>_cyanide, slack is the original distro
[13:45]<vj2djjw>id rather find some sort of book to read to figure some of this out than use man pages
[13:46]<vj2djjw>but im only done with my first year of college so i have a little time probably
[13:47]<mnvrpxrnn>_cyanide, did you know that slackware jumped from 4.0 to 7 just because all the other distro's jumped for no reason?
[13:47]<_rmrgymn>lol
[13:47]<_rmrgymn>i only started using linux a few months ago ;)
[13:47]<mnvrpxrnn>he he
[13:47]<_rmrgymn>tobmoox, emerge funny-manpages ;)
[13:47]<mnvrpxrnn>well at least you started
[13:47]<dnscr>i would like to stress test my new server before installing gentoo, any suggestions? i'm thinking about memtest and prime95 .. maybe something more?
[13:47]<vj2djjw>k
[13:47]<_rmrgymn>lol bunch of really funny man pages
[13:47]<vj2djjw>will do
[13:49]<2ggaz_>emerging sux, i cant do much else at the same time since its so heavy on my cpu
[13:49]<mnvrpxrnn>personally i don't see why anyone would pay for an os when they could support the people writing free code and distribute the cost and make buying an os cheaper
[13:49]<mnvrpxrnn>if people would give these awesome programmers money maybe things would move a bit faster
[13:49]<-- svgvsdyzgjvr xrs>/dev/null")
[13:49]<vj2djjw>emerge seems a lot better than untarring and compiling..
[13:50]<vj2djjw>it seems like it installs all this stuff for you
[13:50]<-- przf_mjrk xrs puy>exit")
[13:50]<vj2djjw>is that like the main package management system in gentoo?
[13:52]<rfprrruyr>tobmoox: that's basically it's job. it'd be pretty useless otherwise
[13:52]<vj2djjw>slack was a bad choice..i use it for my server but no longer my laptop
[13:52]<_rmrgymn>lol
[13:52]<_rmrgymn>benjr_, when was the last time you emerge synced?
[13:52]<2ggaz_>im a former slacker too
[13:52]<mnvrpxrnn>tobmoox, slackware is a good distro if your learning and you don't want to wait for compiles
[13:52]<mnvrpxrnn>tobmoox, fits on 3 cd's and is stable
[13:53]<2ggaz_>_cyanide: dont scare me now, i onyl just learnt about emerge world today, whats emerge sync
[13:53]<_rmrgymn>when did you install gentoo?
[13:53]<mnvrpxrnn>tobmoox, i use slackware to convert windows users
[13:53]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: makes sure you get the latest packages
[13:53]<2ggaz_>_cyanide: 2 months ago
[13:53]<_rmrgymn>ElPenguin, sshhh :P
[13:53]<_rmrgymn>benjr_, dude, you messed up big time :P
[13:53]<2ggaz_>ElPenguin: dosnt emerge world do that too?
[13:53]<_rmrgymn>first emerge --sync -> emerge -uavDN world
[13:54]<_rmrgymn>youre installing 2 month old stuff
[13:54]<2ggaz_>argh
[13:54]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: it looks at the package list from the last time you synced... you've got a pretty out of date system...
[13:54]<_rmrgymn>man, sucks to be you :/
[13:54]<rfprrruyr>i recomment adding a cron job to do it for you
[13:54]<2ggaz_>i onyl just learnt about use flags today too
[13:54]<_rmrgymn>:O
[13:54]<rfprrruyr>_cyanide: my thoughts exactly
[13:54]<_rmrgymn>do a few things...
[13:54]<_rmrgymn>emerge ufed
[13:55]<_rmrgymn>will make it easy to manage use flags
[13:55]<_rmrgymn>but before everything, emerge --sync
[13:55]<2ggaz_>um, cna i emreg sync while im emerge world/
[13:55]<rfprrruyr>_cyanide: or let cron do it for you ;)
[13:55]<2ggaz_>or will that mess things up
[13:55]<_rmrgymn>set up a compile cache if you have some free hdd space
[13:55]<_rmrgymn>benjr_, you shouldnt do both at the same time ;)
[13:56]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: cancel the emerge world. that's just ridiculous, updating to old packages just so you can compile em all again
[13:56]<_rmrgymn>lol
[13:56]<_rmrgymn>poor guys
[13:56]<_rmrgymn>guy*
[13:56]<2ggaz_>ElPenguin: but its been going 5h already :(
[13:57]<_rmrgymn>well you wasted 5 hours
[13:57]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: and? you're just going to let it finish and realise that actually, it's still 2 months out of date
[13:57]<_rmrgymn>should have asked on irc ;)
[13:57]<rfprrruyr>_cyanide: should have RTFM like the install guide told him to
[13:57]<2ggaz_>was someoen here tht told me to emerge world :p
[13:57]<_rmrgymn>anyways, i gotta go
[13:57]<_rmrgymn>cya later guys
[13:57]<rfprrruyr>ciao
[13:57]<vj2djjw>l8z
[13:57]<2ggaz_>emrge sync you say, thx
[13:57]<2ggaz_>cya
[13:58]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: i recommend you actually go read the portage guides on the gentoo site
[13:58]<2ggaz_>i opnyl look up guides when i have a problem, i ddint knwo i had one in this case lol
[13:59]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: gentoo = love the guides or suffer
[13:59]<fyfuynd>he loves to suffer? :)
[13:59]<2ggaz_>ElPenguin: i hate reading, i actually have a learning difficulty int hat area :/







