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[15:04]<rfprrruyr>likewhoa: i once had a laptop, it died, i haven't had one since
[15:04]<cpjgnpysx>Laptops are the only reason to hear about dell/alien/anynamebrand
[15:05]<rfprrruyr>likewhoa: my next PC purchase is an 20" imacTel :)
[15:05]<rrxjjv>benjr_: I'd try only reemegre those apps you plan to use
[15:05]<fycnwxjr>MACOSX--
[15:05]<rfprrruyr>benjr_: equery uses packagename. you need to emerge gentoolkit first
[15:06]<fycnwxjr>ElPenguin: only reason i won't go macbookpro is because they lock you in with ATI, i prefer nvidia
[15:06]<rfprrruyr>likewhoa: it's great hardware, and a friendly smile to go with it. a pity it's slow as hell eh?
[15:06]<2ggaz_>cahoot: if the app i use runs in kde, like xmms, would kde need to be emerged with the use flag for it to work in xmms?
[15:06]<rfprrruyr>likewhoa: linux users, period, prefer nvidia
[15:06]<fycnwxjr>rgr
[15:07]<rrxjjv>benjr_: no - you can run xmms anyway
[15:08]<awnsjdn-jq000>im not sure xmms is dependant on gnome or kde is it?
[15:08]<awnsjdn-jq000>yeah the bummer with laptops is you cant replace things without a ton of $$
[15:08]<rrxjjv>Awesome-o2000: why should it be - it's a gtk app -no?
[15:09]<awnsjdn-jq000>cahoot, I have no idea, I thought xmms had been around since the plain ol X days
[15:10]<awnsjdn-jq000>multiple personality disorder?
[15:10]<fycnwxjr>Awesome-o2000: try xmms2?
[15:10]<rfprrruyr>likewhoa: amarok ftw
[15:10]<awnsjdn-jq000>likewhoa, probably what im using now
[15:10]<rrxjjv>ftw?
[15:10]<dzza_zfna>for the win
[15:10]<awnsjdn-jq000>\nope im on 1.2
[15:10]<rrxjjv>huh?
[15:11]<dzza_zfna>cahoot: means it is good
[15:11]<rfprrruyr>cahoot: = for the win. you can tell i spend too much time with gamers can't you?
[15:11]<awnsjdn-jq000>cahoot, im an ex navy hospital corpsman, sorry
[15:11]<2ggaz_>1.2 here aswell
[15:11]<rrxjjv>mark_alec: hmm -not easy being out of touch
[15:11]<awnsjdn-jq000>theres a lot of linux acronyms that double as humorous medical acronyms as well
[15:12]<rfprrruyr>Awesome-o2000: there are a few that don't even need medicine to make them funny :-p
[15:12]<awnsjdn-jq000>-mad
[15:12]<awnsjdn-jq000>someone compiled that one into me
[15:13]<fycnwxjr>like sir. you got wtf , you have 5 days til you are b0rked
[15:14]<awnsjdn-jq000>USE="mad flack jack fftw" emerge me
[15:14]<fycnwxjr>it's quite today.. seems gentoo is working for everyone :)
[15:15]<fycnwxjr>quiet: we have no money for you
[15:15]<2ggaz_>how do i install a patch on something that im going to emerge, someone told me before about pausing the emerge or something
[15:15]<fuynv>egh?
[15:16]<fycnwxjr>benjr_: just overlay the ebuild then add epatch to ebuild source..
[15:16]<2ggaz_>likewhoa: say again, in worlds a noob could understand
[15:16]<fycnwxjr>quiet: oh you're not affiliated with SCO? n/m then
[15:17]<fycnwxjr>mzbot: wiki benjr_ third party ebuilds
[15:17]<fuynv>likewhoa, !? wtf did that come from??
[15:17]<de2jv>likewhoa: got status 502, retrying in 10 seconds
[15:17]<de2jv>likewhoa: got status 502, retrying in 10 seconds
[15:17]<fycnwxjr>quiet: your hostmask :D
[15:17]<de2jv>benjr_: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds
[15:17]<fuynv>lol... okay.
[15:18]<frrr>hi people. is it possible to emerge something to a directory other than /?
[15:18]<rxrjsyvn>laga: sure.
[15:18]<fycnwxjr>laga: yes if you overlay it and make changes to source ebuild
[15:18]<rxrjsyvn>laga: I think it goes: ROOT="/some/other/dir" emerge whatever
[15:18]<frrr>chaosite: is this in the "emerge" manpage? i couldn't find any references to it
[15:18]<frrr>chaosite: thanks, i will try that
[15:19]<rxrjsyvn>laga: Well, I read about it in some documentation about crosscompiling somewhere in dev.gentoo.org
[15:19]<frrr>chaosite: awesome, i'll check that. i'm trying to build some initrd-ish custom system to allow netbooting over encrypted wlan, that's why i need this
[15:20]<2ggaz_>how do i resume an emerge i canceled out of
[15:21]<vvdw>when i do "somecommand | someothercommand" will someothercommand only execute after somecommand is done executing... or are they both executred at the same time?
[15:21]<frrr>benjr_: emerge --resume
[15:21]<rxrjsyvn>laga: *nod*
[15:21]<rxrjsyvn>laga: good luck =)
[15:21]<2ggaz_>laga: lol logcial, thx
[15:21]<fycnwxjr>tty1: no use &&
[15:21]<fycnwxjr>tty1: | is a pipe
[15:21]<rxrjsyvn>tty1: both at the same time, I believe
[15:21]<frrr>chaosite: thanks :)
[15:21]<awnsjdn-jq000>USE=jikes" emerge beergoggles
[15:21]<vvdw>likewhoa: i know that, im trying to pipe
[15:21]<awnsjdn-jq000>sorry
[15:22]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: He's asking about pipe sematics
[15:22]<fycnwxjr>tty1: || is used only if first command fails
[15:22]<awnsjdn-jq000>USE=jikes" emerge beergoggles-nextmorning
[15:22]<vvdw>likewhoa: huh? i never saw ||, but im trying to pipe, is || for piping?
[15:22]<fycnwxjr>tty1: i.e foo || echo foo failed.
[15:22]<rxrjsyvn>tty1: no
[15:22]<fycnwxjr>tty1: | is
[15:22]<rxrjsyvn>tty1: "||" is the or operater
[15:22]<frrr>|| is like "or"
[15:22]<rxrjsyvn>tty1: like "&&" is the and operator
[15:23]<vvdw>yea ive used || in C++ programs i wrote
[15:23]<vvdw>will someothercommand get an EOF piped to it when somecommand is done executing then?
[15:23]<fycnwxjr>tty1: for what you want.. use 'somecommand && someothercommand'
[15:24]<vvdw>likewhoa: but that wont pipe the output of somecommand into someothercommand, so no, thats not what i want
[15:24]<fycnwxjr>tty1: someothercommand will only execute if somecommand has exit status of 0
[15:24]<txzryg>hello
[15:24]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: HE IS ASKING ABOUT PIPE SEMATICS
[15:24]<txzryg>I'd like to know if someone here have an usb modem working with ueagle
[15:24]<txzryg>I've a strange problem
[15:24]<fycnwxjr>tty1: no,.. | would pipe from 'somecommand' to 'someothercommand'
[15:25]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: and thats what he wants
[15:25]<fycnwxjr>chaosite: GTFO :P
[15:25]<txzryg>it works fine but if it's attached at startup, kernel complains about a firmware
[15:25]<txzryg>DSPep.bin: error -2
[15:25]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: he is asking if someothercommand will execute while somecommand is still running
[15:25]<rxrjsyvn>which is true
[15:26]<rxrjsyvn>like "cat /dev/random | strings"
[15:26]<fycnwxjr>chaosite: yes but he doesn't wanna pipe 'somecommand's' output to 'someothercommand'
[15:26]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: yes, he does.
[15:26]<rxrjsyvn>likewhoa: hes just asking how exactly it does it

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