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[18:45]<rjpr>what log file shows all messages/errors from boot?
[18:45]<njfrffyjus>bonsaikitten, will emerge -uD system possiably break anything?
[18:45]<_aws_>railk, hmm.. i would agree.
[18:45]<deeygge>mzbot: teach bosele error
[18:45]<de2jv>bosele: To inform us about a problem, you need to give us the /fault/, not the error. Error lines that begin with "!!!" or "make" are of no use to us. Fault lines, like "foobar.o: no such file or directory" or "undefined variable cabli" are. (details: http://mzz.mine.nu/faq/gentoo-detailed/error)
[18:46]<caayza>sagalal: tell your friend to use regular Gentoo =D
[18:46]<_aws_>railk, the button usually has ((( beside it (only they're big-small-smaller)
[18:46]<srrrfrf>:-))
[18:46]<2jgsrycyvvgg>Nopalpious, there's a small chance, but in general no
[18:46]<caayza>sagalal: we'll be able to help him in that case
[18:46]<mnnlslran>Can someone tell me where lspci is located or what package it is in?
[18:46]<srrrfrf>Regular gentoo doesn't recognize his harddrive
[18:46]<[s]>Hey
[18:46]<zryfc>_AxS_: yeah i got a button with that image... and ipw2200 has now reported something after i pressed it a few times
[18:46]<srrrfrf>RR4 Linux does!
[18:47]<rjpr>deepspace, pcitools i think
[18:47]<caayza>sagalal: if linux recognizes his hard drive, then Gentoo recognizes his hard drive. It just doesn't know it yet ;-)
[18:47]<mnnlslran>jofa: Thanks.
[18:47]<wusxy>now that i'll be tarring my files, i'll need to see about recovery in tar.. lol
[18:47]<[s]>Its downloading sasl, i think the problem was that i had no internet
[18:47]<srrrfrf>(it's some linux magic I Think)
[18:47]<[s]>thanks for the help please
[18:47]<[s]>people*
[18:47]<_aws_>railk, cool, you should be good then.. use iwconfig/ifconfig/dhcpcd to get it up. or re-run your init script if you have the config. in conf.d/net already
[18:47]<srrrfrf>:-))
[18:47]<sydavwjzc>does samba destroy hard links?
[18:47]<rjpr>deepspace, no, i was wrong
[18:47]<caayza>mzbot: gentoo sagalal alternative installation guide
[18:47]<rjpr>deepspace, sys-apps/pciutils
[18:47]<de2jv>kojiro: got status 502, retrying in 10 seconds
[18:48]<_aws_>SimAtWork, ...don't think so...? you mean if you overwrite a file that used to be a hard link? yes.
[18:48]<de2jv>sagalal: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml
[18:48]<2jsnfn>ah right well sorry, but i will have to get back into my x-less install so that might take a while
[18:48]<sydavwjzc>_AxS_: lame!
[18:48]<caayza>sagalal: he can install gentoo directly from rr4, and it'll recognize his drive :-)
[18:48]<sydavwjzc>_AxS_: any way around that?
[18:48]<mnnlslran>Thanks...
[18:48]<_aws_>SimAtWork, ..but doesn't everything do that?
[18:48]<sydavwjzc>_AxS_: i didn't think so.
[18:48]<ryaxg>'anyone know of a utility like furl (makes a request to an arbitrary HTTP server and prints just the received headers to stdout) which is in Portage?
[18:48]<2jgsrycyvvgg>RichG, wget :-)
[18:49]<_aws_>SimAtWork, i thought it did... try it and see, i guess..
[18:49]<_aws_>SimAtWork, samba will do whatever the system does, anyhow
[18:49]<rjpr>where is the log containing the boot messages? Is that dmesg?
[18:49]<sydavwjzc>oh, isee the problem
[18:49]<_aws_>jofa, yep
[18:49]<tfkdfn>RichG: theres HEAD (part of dev-perl/libwww-perl)
[18:49]<sydavwjzc>excel deletes then creates a new file
[18:49]<srrrfrf>well, that might work actually. But he's so happy he got something running finally that I'm not sure he wants to switch so soon
[18:50]<rjpr>_AxS_, messages concerning framebuffer and gensplash also?
[18:50]<_aws_>jofa, i believe so yes
[18:50]<mrrvx>RichG, curl or wget perhaps?
[18:50]<zzzuzf_wjzc>How can I resume and emerge?
[18:50]<zryfc>_AxS_: ... i think it might be working ... well... i think i managed the iwconfig bit.. now what?
[18:50]<mrrvx>nagual, emerge --resume ?
[18:51]<ryaxg>yeah, wget can do it, but it also downloads the content and writes it to a file...
[18:51]<srrrfrf>But hey, he could theoretically use wget (as I mentioned above), download xextproto-X11.org-7.0.2.tar.bz2 and rename it to xextproto-7.0.2.tar.bz2 (the file emerge is looking for), put it in the right directory on his computer and then emerge again (hopefully with success)
[18:51]<_aws_>RichG, you can have it dump to stdout instead
[18:52]<tfkdfn>sagalal: that won't work if the files differ in the slightest
[18:52]<_aws_>sagalal, ...you forgot that he'd have to re-digest the ebuild as that file won't match
[18:52]<sydavwjzc>sometimes i really wish i could hard link a directory
[18:52]<2jgsrycyvvgg>RichG, you can use --spider so it doesn't save, and maybe there's a header-only option
[18:52]<_aws_>SimAtWork, ...you can't? i thought you could..?
[18:52]<srrrfrf>gosh darn it, why does portage look for a file that doesn't exist anymore
[18:52]<srrrfrf>!!
[18:52]<sydavwjzc>you can? i thought you couldn't.
[18:52]<sydavwjzc>testing
[18:53]<tfkdfn>sagalal: it doesn't, does it?
[18:53]<sydavwjzc>_axs_: ln: `restore/': hard link not allowed for directory
[18:53]<_aws_>SimAtWork, i've had samba follow symlinks -- that might be a possibility
[18:53]<rggjgg>SimAtWork: technically you can, but it's a rather bad idea
[18:53]<wusxy>jesus, tar's manual is huge
[18:53]<rjpr>_AxS_, can't find any messages from framebuffer or gensplash in dmesg, but I'm sure I saw some errors during boot
[18:53]<tfkdfn>sagalal: blame the ebuild, not portage :)
[18:53]<sydavwjzc>genone: how come?
[18:53]<svuup>SimAtWork: hard linking directories completely blows up the parent dir link, so you can't do it
[18:53]<mcy>sagalal, your portage tree is old?
[18:53]<tfkdfn>sagalal: and are you using the official tree? and is it up to date?
[18:53]<ryaxg>bonsaikitten, cool -- that works well :) thanks everyone
[18:54]<srrrfrf>it looks for xextproto-7.0.2.tar.bz2 but this file doesn't exist anymore at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/everything/, instead the file is called xextproto-X11.org-7.0.2.tar.bz2
[18:54]<fdnfmd>xushi: not too big. try the man page for bash :P
[18:54]<caayza>sagalal: fix the ebuild :-)
[18:54]<mrrvx>RichG, How about wget -O /dev/null -S http://your.page.com/
[18:54]<wusxy>Fieldy: lol
[18:54]<wusxy>i'll take your word
[18:54]<rggjgg>SimAtWork: synchronisation issues IIRC
[18:54]<tfkdfn>sagalal: check distfiles.gentoo.org
[18:54]<_aws_>jofa, hmm.. not sure what to say then.. dmesg gives you everything that the kernel reports but sometimes stuff goes to stdout that the kernel doesn't bother to report as an error... (esp if, say, its not the kernel that's giving the error)
[18:54]<srrrfrf>kojiro, that sounds a little too H4X0rish for me! :)
[18:54]<caayza>sagalal: it's just a text file -- copy the ebuild to PORTDIR_OVERLAY and edit it so it points to the right file
[18:54]<srrrfrf>but what about when you do emerge -update
[18:54]<rjpr>_AxS_, k. thanks
[18:55]<srrrfrf>won't it rewrite with whatever it has on the sever
[18:55]<_aws_>sagalal, that's what a portdir_overlay is for
[18:55]<sydavwjzc>it's only 9am and i'm starving!
[18:55]<srrrfrf>aha
[18:55]<srrrfrf>where is portdir_overlay?
[18:56]<lyguwkjzn>is there any kind of p2p downloading program for linux?

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