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[18:16]<||aw>ctx144k: that really doens't mean anything when it comes to bad ram
[18:16]<s0gw>hi
[18:16]<s0gw>i need iftop in php
[18:16]<s0gw>someone have ?
[18:17]<pznmo6>||cw: this is while building php and pear, none is currently installed :)
[18:17]<||aw>s0n1: what's iftop
[18:17]<zjw>Ciaran: only way I can do it it seems, http://phpfi.com/117333
[18:17]<zjw>not sure if a direct compare on the md5 compare is faster
[18:17]<cyjvj>||cw but the using of global isn't bad practice right
[18:17]<pznmo6>but it looks like i should be create a skeleton php.ini and change PEAR_INSTALL_FLAGS to pass -c my-php.ini
[18:17]<pznmo6>thanks
[18:17]<||aw>fred87: pear is just a script, you have to have php-cli installed first
[18:18]<avww99c>i cant understand that the program doesnt break completly, its running and says the error at the end, so i havent any idea how to find the error
[18:18]<s0gw>||cw : iftop is tools for work / monitor of users access webpages in real time
[18:18]<cyzzzg>row: could you compare lengths?
[18:18]<zjw>Ciaran: that might be risky.
[18:18]<pznmo6>||cw: if you're building pear modules within the php source tree, it uses sapi/cli/php from the source dir
[18:18]<cyzzzg>row: yeah, not sure what you're doing so can't say
[18:19]<||aw>s0n1: which has what to do with coding in php?
[18:20]<||aw>fred87: pear is php classes, not modules. pecl is modules and doesn't require pear
[18:20]<pznmo6>*packages
[18:21]<frrrnfjvscy>cw: here the original in a textarea. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4172/original8hq.jpg
[18:21]<zjw>Ciaran: if you are intrested I can put some example text so you can see how it works...
[18:21]<||aw>and pear packages don't have anything to do with the php source tree. I think one of is quite confused about what the problem is, and since I don't compile php itself anymore it could very well be me
[18:21]<pznmo6>while doing "make install" in the php source tree, it also does the install-pear-packages which uses sapi/cli/php to do some of the installation, and while doing so it runs out of memory. this is part of the build and install process, it is not meant to be installed already
[18:22]<pznmo6>well, not runs out of memory, but runs over the default 8M
[18:22]<||aw>fred87: file a bug.
[18:22]<fjvus_rgydr>can you include a file in the middle of a class, where the file contains method definitions?
[18:22]<frrrnfjvscy>here is the "truncated" in a <td>$text</td> http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7123/truncated7ea.jpg
[18:22]<pznmo6>will do once i've got my fix working
[18:22]<||aw>fred87: if that's [art of the build script, it should work out of the box
[18:22]<pznmo6>well, it's had some of the fdefault pear packages replaced with more recent versions
[18:22]<cyzzzg>row: I'd be interested to see what that regex is doing heh
[18:22]<frrrnfjvscy>cw: u see the difference
[18:22]<||aw>fred87: so i guess what you need is a way to up the 8Meg built i limit, maybe you have to edit some header file or soemthing
[18:23]<pznmo6>nah, i'm thinking just editing PEAR_INSTALL_FLAGS in the Makefile (Which passes -n to php) to point to a php.ini should hopefully do the trick
[18:23]<pznmo6>and... yes :) it has
[18:23]<||aw>pangelovski: heh, that's not "truncated", truncated means some part of it cut off and there's nothing after it
[18:23]<||aw>pangelovski: you need a <pre>
[18:24]<grgjvnax>what vars would onclick="return getPosition(event);" return?
[18:25]<sgzdgdvd>Hey everyone :) I was wondering if it's any possible to call a php method without instantiate it's class ? (PHP4)
[18:25]<||aw>nanotech: in php? nothing cause it's not php
[18:25]<sgzdgdvd>same question for php5 also
[18:25]<||aw>Serinity: if the function int eh class is designed to be called staticaly, yes, see php.net/oop and php.net/oop5
[18:25]<d0ddrg>Serinity className::method()
[18:26]<muzgnzz>Anyone know how to do that real time suggestion when typing forms stuff?
[18:26]<sgzdgdvd>ok thanks :)
[18:26]<muzgnzz>ie: i'm typing and program is suggesting
[18:26]<pznmo6>||cw: if you're interested, fix at http://paste.axpr.net/?show=494
[18:26]<||aw>duanear: most use some level of ajax
[18:26]<zjw>duanear: yes you need to use javascript for client side stuff, which is not php.
[18:26]<frrrnfjvscy>i tried the pre and it totally f my layout :)
[18:26]<zjw>ajax can do it?
[18:26]<muzgnzz>can you point me to some ajax toolkit for suhc functionality?
[18:26]<||aw>pangelovski: well, it depens on how you use it. I'd sugest learning html.
[18:27]<frrrnfjvscy>cw: how come the format is kept in a textarea but not in a td
[18:27]<||aw>row: "ajax" is a broad term, i use it very loosely
[18:27]<zjw>yeah I just defined it, I thought ajax was something else, javascript+xml
[18:27]<zjw>:P
[18:27]<||aw>duanear: google "xmlhttprequest object"
[18:28]<efvysj>duanear: http://kenman.net/t/index.php
[18:28]<efvysj>duanear: source is here: http://kenman.net/t/index.phps
[18:28]<efvysj>duanear, its a simple example, but you could make it work for you
[18:29]<muzgnzz>Elviso: wouldn't real time suggestion crush the database?
[18:30]<efvysj>duanear, I'm just providing a working AJAX example. I have no experience whatsoever with real-time suggestion methods :)
[18:30]<fyvx>duanear: depends on ohw many users are on the system. if your site only gets 2 people a week, i doubt it very much :D
[18:31]<muzgnzz>lith: well, more like 60,000 a day, but i'm not gonna use it for that purpose... it's for the people who run the site
[18:31]<fyvx>not to mention, you can specify the callback frequency to adjust to incoming traffic.
[18:31]<wygduvv>we have 1 cm dialation woot!
[18:31]<fyvx>duanear: i know, i was teasing with the 1 - 2 a week. :/
[18:31]<muzgnzz>duanear: ie, they're adding something new but hey, it might already exist
[18:32]<muzgnzz>maybe save some processing on the post, say an error saying it's a duplicate
[18:32]<fyvx>winmutt: what does that mean?
[18:32]<efvysj>sounds like someone's having a baby soon
[18:33]<||aw>you can also do client side caching, google and gmail use it extensivly
[18:33]<wyacnzs>so how would I get php to read a csv file and parse it?
[18:33]<wygduvv>lith: im gonna be a poppa
[18:33]<||aw>wickers: fgetscsv()
[18:33]<fyvx>winmutt: Then what the _hell_ are you doing on IRC?!!?!?! :D
[18:33]<wygduvv>lith: u ever on efnet?
[18:33]<fyvx>YOu should be getting your hand crushed at this moment
[18:33]<wygduvv>lith: can still be like a week
[18:33]<muzgnzz>http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/AJAX:Getting_Started
[18:33]<frrrnfjvscy>cw: u still with me?
[18:33]<muzgnzz>trying that tutorial
[18:33]<||aw>winmutt: her first?
[18:33]<wygduvv>yes
[18:34]<||aw>winmutt: more liekly to be today then
[18:34]<wyacnzs>||cw, sweet
[18:34]<||aw>the first goes fast
[18:34]<||aw>usualy
[18:34]<wygduvv>we shall see
[18:34]<wygduvv>and im getting a benz today
[18:34]<wygduvv>lol
[18:34]<wygduvv>what a great week
[18:35]<fyvx>winmutt: expensive week for ya
[18:35]<wygduvv>only payin1g for benz
[18:35]<wygduvv>old diesel
[18:35]<fyvx>ah I see
[18:35]<d0ddrg>I hope an E or S. Not the dreaded C class.







