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[21:13]<wygduvv>im about to be a father
[21:13]<zpzzznff>i know
[21:13]<zpzzznff>winmutt, you can look, just cant touch
[21:13]<wygduvv>must learn some decoroum of mediocrity
[21:13]<zpzzznff>and they cant stop you from thinking if they dont know what you are thinkng
[21:13]<wygduvv>jfarrell: going to hell by way of jail
[21:13]<zpzzznff>lol
[21:14]<wygduvv>i really wish i had a browser
[21:14]<wygduvv>this suckls
[21:14]<zpzzznff>wahoo for study abroad
[21:14]<zpzzznff>winmutt, using irsii?
[21:14]<wygduvv>ircii?
[21:14]<wygduvv>oh
[21:14]<zpzzznff>the one irc command line client
[21:14]<zpzzznff>i cant remember the name
[21:15]<wygduvv>i had to uninstall xorgx11 to upgrade gentoo for some reason
[21:15]<wygduvv>i always use irc in cli
[21:15]<wygduvv>gui irc is for suckers
[21:15]<wygduvv>however surfing the web is dreary in lynx
[21:15]<zpzzznff>lol
[21:15]<zpzzznff>just a tad
[21:15]<zpzzznff>and according to it, I have not joined this channel
[21:15]<wygduvv>i use BitchX
[21:16]<zpzzznff>thats what I use when I am on Linux
[21:16]<hmmzr_>jfarrell, lo
[21:16]<hmmzr_>i wrote HydraIRC ;)
[21:16]<ma_ffd>form input type='file' how can I make sure that user pics a file and does not just type something meaningless into the file field?
[21:16]<zpzzznff>kewl
[21:17]<zpzzznff>im not complaining, i like it
[21:17]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>jfarrell: It's like calling tech support, only they all hang up on you, so you have to start over from scratch every time.
[21:17]<hmmzr_>jfarrell, i've noticed that sometimes on this network myself. looking into it
[21:17]<zpzzznff>good to hear
[21:17]<wygduvv>rodder, the guy who wrote ircii, is on efnet :)
[21:17]<zpzzznff>I love HydraIRC,
[21:17]<nzzzmz>Small world.
[21:17]<wygduvv>lol
[21:18]<nzzzmz>Now that's good customer service at your doorstep.
[21:18]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>* goes to lunch
[21:18]<zpzzznff>damn striaght
[21:18]<zpzzznff>this months energy bill is: 37.71
[21:18]<wygduvv>small world is the benz im buying.. i drove 1.5hrs to the country only to find out i know the guy who is selling it
[21:18]<zpzzznff>looks like I can turn the Windows Server back on
[21:18]<wygduvv>completely random
[21:18]<wygduvv>jfL: damn
[21:18]<wygduvv>jfarrell: mine is about 120 w/o ac
[21:19]<zpzzznff>our will get higher once we start using hte ac
[21:19]<zpzzznff>maybe around $60
[21:19]<wygduvv>my wife leaves the lights on perpetually :(
[21:19]<wygduvv>apt?
[21:19]<zpzzznff>yeah
[21:19]<wygduvv>ah yes apt is much cheaper
[21:19]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>winmutt: install timers on the switches. :-)
[21:19]<wygduvv>oh the joys of home ownership
[21:19]<zpzzznff>i think my parents house is around $120 if not higher
[21:19]<zpzzznff>haha
[21:19]<grlcyg>winmutt, sounds like you have a problem with women.
[21:20]<wygduvv>richardlynch : that gets annoying
[21:20]<wygduvv>napkin: dont all men?
[21:20]<zpzzznff>winmutt, write a PHP program to control everything in the house
[21:20]<zpzzznff>:)
[21:20]<zpzzznff>jsut dont put it on a windows server and youll be fine
[21:20]<zpzzznff>;)
[21:20]<grlcyg>winmutt, not in the way i was describing. it's true that the planet is dominated by men, though.
[21:20]<zvzzzyzzzz>guys I can include a file from a certain location
[21:20]<zvzzzyzzzz>but when I come and try to fopen it wont work.. and when I do if file_exists() it returns false
[21:21]<zpzzznff>ntengineer,
[21:21]<zvzzzyzzzz> but I can include it though! any idea?
[21:21]<zvzzzyzzzz>yes
[21:21]<ndf>ntengineer, file_exists() needs the full path.
[21:21]<zpzzznff>use getcwd() and make sure PHP is looking where you think it is
[21:21]<zvzzzyzzzz>I did give it the full path
[21:21]<zpzzznff>ntengineer, keep in mind, the include path is relative to the present file
[21:21]<zpzzznff>iirc
[21:21]<jddddd>winmutt http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=howTo&p=Improve/AutoSwitch.html
[21:21]<zpzzznff>err
[21:21]<zpzzznff>realtive to the gloab file
[21:21]<zvzzzyzzzz>include('oit/info/info-util.inc') works but file_exists('oit/info/info-util.inc'); doesnt work
[21:22]<wygduvv>richardlynch: although the ir w timers arent so bad
[21:22]<zpzzznff>ntengineer, see what getcwd() gives you
[21:22]<zpzzznff>go from there
[21:22]<ndf>ntengineer, I think you'll have to use the FULL path.
[21:22]<zvzzzyzzzz>true true
[21:22]<lxl_gnw2>does the curl normally navigate to an address using the current browser window? or does it access the address server side?
[21:22]<zpzzznff>PHP is not broken, trust me
[21:22]<zvzzzyzzzz>ok will do.. thanks
[21:22]<wygduvv>napkin: dont all ,men?
[21:23]<lxl_gnw2>or is it used with an invisible iframe a la google maps?
[21:23]<zpzzznff>man the weather sucks here
[21:23]<wygduvv>napkin: in which way were you describing?
[21:23]<wygduvv>curl doesnt use a browser
[21:24]<lxl_gnw2>ok
[21:24]<wygduvv>php_newb: curl is the browser
[21:24]<zpzzznff>winmutt, i think he is referring to the URL he sees in the browser
[21:24]<wygduvv>curl or URL?
[21:24]<lxl_gnw2>cURL
[21:24]<wygduvv>jfarrell: php is broken
[21:24]<wygduvv>cURL is the browser, server side
[21:24]<wygduvv>more or less
[21:24]<wygduvv>it is a http/ftp/whatever client
[21:25]<grlcyg>i got an impression from your comments about getting head, dumbing down technical explanations, and your sexual insecurities of becoming a father that you somehow don't respect women as much as you respect yourself.

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