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[22:55]<mrvv6wq>LOL
[22:55]<gxysvggz>TML, I use vim, is that fine :]
[22:55]<wjlllrws>zend isn't an IDE... It's a company.
[22:55]<tml>eXistenZ: I use nvi
[22:55]<tml>eXistenZ: vim tends to get in my way
[22:55]<fxyfyf>Matt712: and really, does this code look appropriate? if ($kerr = 0) {
[22:55]<kd|zrvyw>pico!
[22:55]<tjufgg>ed!
[22:55]<dzzznzdjusn>emacs! vi!
[22:56]<tjufgg>edlin!
[22:56]<dzzznzdjusn>stfu!itsold!
[22:56]<byre>/dev/urandom!
[22:56]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>punch cards!
[22:56]<kd|zrvyw>haw
[22:56]<tjufgg>joe!
[22:56]<byre>Right TML? ;)
[22:56]<rrdrdr>magnets
[22:56]<gxysvggz>TML, Do you know a good introductory php/mysql book?
[22:56]<fxyfyf>hashphp.org pastebin!
[22:56]<byre>oooh... magnet voodoo...
[22:56]<tml>eXistenZ: php.net/mysql
[22:56]<rrdrdr>ph33r m3
[22:56]<tml>BigE: =)
[22:56]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>eXistenZ: http://php.net/books.php
[22:56]<mrvv6wq>philip : how do you mean?
[22:57]<fxyfyf>that books page will most likely be removed
[22:57]<fzjfxyfn>eXistenZ: PHP and MySQL Web Development, Third Edition, Luke Welling and Laura Thompson.
[22:57]<fxyfyf>Matt712: what is the difference between = and ==?
[22:57]<mrvv6wq>Im not Sure
[22:57]<wjlllrws>o.O
[22:57]<gxysvggz>prophile, thanks bro :)
[22:57]<fzjfxyfn>no problem
[22:57]<fxyfyf>Matt712: php.net/tutorial
[22:57]<mrvv6wq>ah crap
[22:57]<mrvv6wq>lol
[22:57]<mrvv6wq>:p
[22:57]<tml>philip: Why?
[22:57]<mrvv6wq>stupid mistake
[22:58]<fxyfyf>because impossible to maintain
[22:58]<fzjfxyfn>he thought you meant == and === probably
[22:58]<tml>philip: It should be a wiki
[22:58]<fxyfyf>that page was created when php was newer, and not many books existed
[22:58]<mrvv6wq>hm
[22:58]<tml>True, but it's not a bad thing to have.
[22:58]<vnfvzzyzv>Just out of curiosity; what do you folks consider the cleanest, most performant PHP CMS out there?
[22:58]<fxyfyf>now that are a million, people can find them elsewhere with tools such as amazon
[22:58]<mrvv6wq>right ok no errors :p
[22:58]<tml>Teltariat: Drupal
[22:58]<mrvv6wq>just nothing is created
[22:58]<mrvv6wq>so my sql syntax must be wrong
[22:58]<mrvv6wq>:(
[22:58]<vnfvzzyzv>TML: lol. I know Drupal, but I was wondering if there was better.
[22:58]<fzjfxyfn>Teltariat: Writeyourown CMS
[22:59]<vnfvzzyzv>prophile: Notimetodoso
[22:59]<tml>Teltariat: "Better" how?
[22:59]<fxyfyf>yeah, php group is pretty anti-wiki it seems though :)
[22:59]<fzjfxyfn>Teltariat: then try Joomla
[22:59]<tml>philip: Yeah
[22:59]<vnfvzzyzv>Joomla...hmm
[22:59]<zdzxzzmfdgzx>Try that one site that lets you kick the tires... opensourcecms.org or somesuch.
[22:59]<fzjfxyfn>indeed
[22:59]<byre>The php group seems pretty anti-anything that might be good for them... heh.
[22:59]<vnfvzzyzv>Thanks TML, prophile, richard.
[22:59]<tml>I'm personally not a fan of Mambo/Joomla. I've always felt it was far heavier than it needs to be for the feature set delivered.
[22:59]<fzjfxyfn>don't use ecwcms by the way, Teltariat, incase you're tempted by opensourcecms.org
[22:59]<fxyfyf>php group is somewhat old school
[23:00]<vnfvzzyzv>Also just off curiosity, what do you folks think of Typo3?
[23:00]<vnfvzzyzv>Its got the be the heaviest thing out there, PHP wise, IMHO
[23:01]<tjnzcnyud>is there a way to configure php from source like the ones installed by yum ? I mean, it's included some file to do that?
[23:01]<byre>Wow, I can't stop yawning, and still two hours of work left. :\
[23:01]<tjufgg>BigE: coffeee!!!
[23:01]<kd|zrvyw>that just made me yawn
[23:01]<kd|zrvyw>wtf
[23:01]<byre>Touqen: The resivour, is depleted.
[23:01]<tml>BigE: "It's only 2 o'clock, and my brain's shut down for the day!"
[23:02]<byre>TML: 3 o'clock, and yep.
[23:02]<tjufgg>4 oclock and i'm unemployed
[23:02]<tml>BigE: From a recent Dilbert
[23:02]<fxyfyf>Toerkeium: you may need to explain yourself a little better
[23:02]<fusxuyrr>i just came to think of it...
[23:02]<byre>My brain shut down sometime last night inbetween sweeping and scrubbing...
[23:02]<fusxuyrr>wouldn't the world be GREAT if we didn't invented the wheel?
[23:02]<fusxuyrr>no nukes, no wars, no weapons, no car accidents, etc
[23:02]<byre>TML: I love that cartoon, lol.
[23:03]<tjufgg>hahah
[23:03]<byre>I have a Dilbert calendar hanging on my wall at home.
[23:03]<tjufgg>There is an aero deck chair
[23:03]<tjnzcnyud>philip, I am a 0 to the left! :) I mean, I have installed php from yum repository, and it have mostly all options enabled always. Now I need to compile from source php-5, I was wondering if there was some way to make a "full" install
[23:03]<fusxuyrr>am i right or not?
[23:03]<byre>Fushuing: But still, we would be left with some crazy guy running at us trying to bash our headds in with a rock.
[23:03]<fusxuyrr>:|
[23:04]<vnfvzzyzv>Respond in kind.
[23:04]<vnfvzzyzv>Use a boulder.
[23:04]<fusxuyrr>at least we don't have nukes then
[23:04]<fxyfyf>if we all were native americans (indians), this world would be a better place even with wheels
[23:04]<fusxuyrr>else we would have nuked the guy and lost a lot more people
[23:04]<vnfvzzyzv>Nukular.
[23:04]<fxyfyf>Toerkeium: you need something like php5-dev (header files) to compile t
[23:04]<fusxuyrr>my bubble didn't pop :)
[23:05]<vnfvzzyzv>thats what he wants you to think.

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