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[03:32]<vznd2d>Donkano__: put it in quotes. 3rd result.
[03:32]<wjlllrws>!+enter
[03:32]<lxl-2jv>Don't use the enter key as punctuation. Think in complete thoughts, then type.
[03:32]<vznd2d>colder: nice, i'll remember that :)
[03:33]<djgcrgj__>tremby: Doesn't make a lick of difference.
[03:33]<vznd2d>http://www.google.ca/search?hs=LkM&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22An+operation+on+a+socket+could+not+be+performed+because+the+system+lacked+sufficient+buffer+space+or+because+a+queue+was+full.%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[03:33]<vznd2d>actually that result is pretty useless. fair enough.
[03:33]<djgcrgj__>tremby: I see nothing about PHP in there.
[03:34]<djgcrgj__>Now can someone answer my question?
[03:34]<vznd2d>i can't
[03:34]<tzjzmjzw>ehm tremby, sure you didnt screw something up?
[03:34]<tzjzmjzw>it returns $user on every value
[03:34]<vznd2d>not at all. what happened?
[03:34]<vznd2d>can you pastebin what you have
[03:35]<tzjzmjzw>sure just a sec
[03:35]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>yo
[03:35]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>wazz up
[03:36]<wjlllrws>hm?
[03:36]<wjlllrws>Fushuing: a brief PM, please?
[03:37]<fusxuyrr>?
[03:37]<fusxuyrr>sure
[03:38]<fusxuyrr>just pm already dammit, for the same thing i woula missed the request
[03:39]<fusxuyrr>i prefer gd...
[03:39]<fusxuyrr>it's so simple :|
[03:39]<djgcrgj__>They are technically just as secure, are they not?
[03:39]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>imagemagick is better at making jpegs
[03:39]<fusxuyrr>...and?
[03:39]<djgcrgj__>Who cares?
[03:40]<fjzm_ygzzyj>does somebody know care2x project?
[03:40]<djgcrgj__>90% or more of the main uses of online graphicing is for human checkers.
[03:40]<wjlllrws>lord: no
[03:40]<gzjsgg00w>hey
[03:40]<wjlllrws>Donkano__: That's quite funny
[03:40]<fjzm_ygzzyj>Wolfpaws i hope someoner does :)
[03:40]<gzjsgg00w>where can i find a good ramdom image php script?
[03:40]<djgcrgj__>Wolfpaws: It's true.
[03:41]<djgcrgj__>Wolfpaws: Every site that knows anything about security and has a registration page uses a graphical human checker.
[03:41]<gzjsgg00w>you know like one with a fade effect for the random image when the page refreshes?
[03:41]<wjlllrws>Donkano__: "online graphicing" means bit more than that :)
[03:41]<djgcrgj__>Well, not just a registration page, but forms in general.
[03:42]<djgcrgj__>I know Wolfpaws, that is why I said 90% or more.
[03:42]<djgcrgj__>There is things like FlamingText for instance.
[03:42]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>Donkano__: I don't, I use other methods that don't annoy people.
[03:42]<djgcrgj__>TheRandomAvenger: What method do you use for human checking?
[03:42]<vznd2d>Trogdorx: how's that pastebin coming along?
[03:43]<gzjsgg00w>??anyone care to point me in the right direction?
[03:44]<gzjsgg00w>?
[03:44]<vznd2d>a fade effect when the page refreshes?
[03:44]<vznd2d>got an example?
[03:44]<djgcrgj__>There is a fade in meta tag event for documents.
[03:45]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>Donkano__: Simple IM/E-mail confirmation and a good admin staff.
[03:46]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>Accounts that aren't activated are automatically deleted.
[03:46]<djgcrgj__>E-mail confirmation is BY FAR more annoying than a simple "Type In The Code" image.
[03:46]<fusxuyrr>YEP
[03:46]<fusxuyrr>but...what about both?
[03:46]<djgcrgj__>That would be senseless.
[03:46]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>Donkano__: Which is why it defaults to IMing the person.
[03:47]<vznd2d>email confirmation is the only way to check they actually own the email address
[03:47]<djgcrgj__>That is like doing sha1(crypt("rawr"));
[03:47]<djgcrgj__>Completely senseless.
[03:48]<snzvxnz>"type in the code" is an anti-bot method
[03:48]<djgcrgj__>Yes
[03:48]<snzvxnz>"email confirmation" is a valid-email-address method
[03:48]<djgcrgj__>That is why I called it a human checker.
[03:48]<gzjsgg00w>yeah check out www.animepaper.net
[03:49]<gzjsgg00w>and refresh the page
[03:49]<djgcrgj__>E-Mail confirmation can be a human checker too as bots today don't use e-mail.
[03:49]<snzvxnz>you can bot an email confirmation thing without any problems
[03:49]<gzjsgg00w>you see what i am talking a about
[03:49]<ndf>Heya guys! how are oouy?
[03:49]<djgcrgj__>But it is possible for a bot to catch e-mails and do the confirmation.
[03:49]<djgcrgj__>Thus graphical heman checking is more secure than e-mail confirmation.
[03:49]<wjlllrws>of course
[03:49]<djgcrgj__>human*
[03:50]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>does anyone here use a framework?
[03:50]<wjlllrws>no
[03:50]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>me neither. I get performance out of knowing regex
[03:51]<wjlllrws>Then why the question?
[03:51]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>so I don't feel alone
[03:51]<vznd2d>erosen001: i know you're talking to me but i wouldn't have spotted that if i was not watching chat - get in the habit of using the person's nick in the message. but anyway, what's supposed to be changing? if you just want to choose a random image when the page parses just use rand()
[03:52]<wjlllrws>mynameiswigga: Do you have a *meaningful* PHP question?
[03:53]<pzzvz>i do !!!
[03:54]<pzzvz> teach me to hack
[03:54]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>I think there are alot of people out there asking that question. It is simply ridiulous. I seriously wonder about this OO crowd. Is it Job security? Maybe its too philosophical, but it's the weekend.
[03:55]<djgcrgj__>farva: This is PHP, not hacking lessons. Get out of here you kiddie scripter.
[03:55]<pzzvz>:-(
[03:55]<pzzvz>its a meangful question
[03:55]<wjlllrws>it is?
[03:55]<djgcrgj__>Ya but it isn't relating to PHP.
[03:55]<pzzvz>~tell Donkano__ about love
[03:55]<ayzzsvnz>alrightttt i'm loaded with beer
[03:55]<pzzvz>Donkano__, teach me to hack php!
[03:55]<djgcrgj__>HAHAHA.
[03:55]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>farva: There is a good hacking kit out there called goatse. Google it.
[03:55]<djgcrgj__>LOL!
[03:55]<ayzzsvnz>lol
[03:55]<pzzvz><3 goatse
[03:55]<pzzvz>i wish i could meet that man
[03:55]<djgcrgj__>Avenger, you're too mean.
[03:56]<ddrrdnyswyrrr>i think farva is being condescending

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