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[00:00]<fxyfyf>when changing topic, also note 4.4.2 is at RC2 now
[00:00]<wjlllrws>I forgot to update
[00:00]<fxyfyf>the iastate should be removed too
[00:00]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: http://marmoreal.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/marmoreal/marmoreal/marmoreal.php?revision=1.4
[00:01]<fxyfyf>you guys are silly
[00:01]<wjlllrws>we are?
[00:01]<fxyfyf>yes it's true
[00:01]<fusxuyrr>what's the 0,10 for?
[00:01]<wjlllrws>yush :)
[00:01]<svznrcd_>is there a page anywhere that shows the status of v6?
[00:01]<fxyfyf>yes
[00:01]<rexy_drxrcr>Wolfpaws: what other alternatives to php do you know, for web development?
[00:02]<svznrcd_>Azhi_Dahaka, there's hundreds
[00:02]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: timeout.
[00:02]<fusxuyrr>right :|
[00:02]<fxyfyf>let's see, there is PHP3, PHP4, PHP5, and PHP6...
[00:02]<svznrcd_>ypythin might be a good way to go?
[00:02]<wjlllrws>Azhi_Dahaka: Many of them... There is also mod_brainfuck
[00:03]<svznrcd_>python*
[00:03]<svznrcd_>get the spelling out
[00:03]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: is there really?
[00:03]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: a timeout of 0 means "return immediately", which basically makes the function into a polling mechanism.
[00:03]<wjlllrws>streaky_: There are 3 good frameworks I am aware of in Python: Django, web.py and Turbogears
[00:04]<fusxuyrr>$sock->socket = ?
[00:04]<_ajn>does '$this' work any differently in php 5 as opposed to php 4? it seems to be giving me trouble
[00:04]<svznrcd_>who said anything about python? he was asking about web development laguages :)
[00:04]<wjlllrws>itrebal: As far as I can remember, yes
[00:04]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: I'll give you three guesses, but you should only need one...
[00:04]<fusxuyrr>i think i'll need more than three :|
[00:04]<||aw>_joe: not really, unless you have static function than you need to use self::
[00:04]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: thats really funny
[00:05]<fxyfyf>PHP 6 TODO Wiki: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP60
[00:05]<svgvggl>Anyone know of some good documentation for connecting to a progress db from php?
[00:05]<svznrcd_>ah sweet, thx :)
[00:05]<||aw>c# also ins't strickly a "web development language"
[00:05]<fusxuyrr>$sock->socket = connected socket?
[00:05]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: yes, it's a socket.
[00:05]<_ajn>||cw: alrighty. thanks
[00:05]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: It's the listening socket, to be more specific.
[00:05]<||aw>StevenL: is there a progressdb section in the manual?
[00:05]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>||cw: Mono is awesome.
[00:06]<fusxuyrr>listening sockets you mean?
[00:06]<fzvnzzfus>Fushuing: eg, the socket which listens for new connections.
[00:06]<fusxuyrr>or just one socket?
[00:06]<svgvggl>No.
[00:06]<svznrcd_>||cw, well, no, but neither is perl
[00:06]<||aw>mono isn't a language at all
[00:06]<wjlllrws>add an ifsetor() construct with the middle value for the ?: ternary operator dropped <-- WTF?
[00:07]<svgvggl>There aren't any php functions for dealing with progress that I can find.
[00:07]<svznrcd_>mono is an open .NET clr
[00:07]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>||cw: C# using Mono, then?
[00:07]<wjlllrws>You're wrong
[00:07]<wjlllrws>Mono is .NET implementation
[00:07]<||aw>streaky_: my point exactly. php was written primarily to be a web development language first and foremost
[00:07]<fxyfyf>ifsetor($foo, 'bar'); == if (!isset($foo)) $foo = 'bar';
[00:07]<fusxuyrr>goes into main idle loop for waiting messages from the IRC server, found it!
[00:07]<rrdrdr>heya Wolfy
[00:07]<wjlllrws>Ack!
[00:07]<fxyfyf>i think, iirc
[00:08]<||aw>StevenL: maybe in pear or pecl? might have to go with odbc
[00:08]<svznrcd_>||cw, and thus is a rare bread, doesn't discount all the other languages if somebody happens to ask though :p
[00:08]<wjlllrws>heya, 'nygma :)
[00:08]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: yea, i think philip is right, they're leaving ternary - right?
[00:08]<fxyfyf>yes
[00:08]<yvzn2rf>good
[00:09]<wjlllrws>What was wrong with ternary?
[00:09]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: nothing, its just simplifying a $var = isset($_GET['yadda'])?$_GET['yadda']:false;
[00:10]<zvzzzwys>hi, I'm trying to get logging to work, I specified the loglevel and the logfile in the php.ini for apache2, but nothing gets written there
[00:10]<wdrrvs>holy crap
[00:11]<wdrrvs>I found the problem
[00:11]<wdrrvs>I was doing <? instead of <?php
[00:11]<wjlllrws>itrebal: I liked that, but I'm comming from C++ environment
[00:11]<rrdrdr>short tags = bad
[00:12]<yvzn2rf>ah
[00:12]<sjpvwjzc>hi, i have a php server and i put in php file $_SESSION['nome'] = "joao"; and this create a file sess_*** in directory, i have other folder, how i open session?
[00:12]<yvzn2rf>heh, the only entirely legal copy of windows i have is win95
[00:12]<[v0za]>What function would I be after if I wanted to run through the tables in a mySQL database, replacing instances of <center> with <div align="center"> ?
[00:12]<wjlllrws>itrebal: OSR or the normal?
[00:12]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: normal i think
[00:12]<sjpvwjzc>hi, i have a php server and i put in php file $_SESSION['nome'] = "joao"; and this create a file sess_*** in directory, i have other folder, how i open this session? because is in other folder
[00:13]<fxyfyf>[t0rc] no such function exists
[00:13]<fxyfyf>use sql
[00:13]<[v0za]>philip: So SQL commands would be better suited to it?
[00:14]<fxyfyf>it's not a php issue at all, so you have no choice, other than doing it at runtime with php but why?
[00:15]<[v0za]>Well I was just going to use a script to take some input and then run the searching and replacing with mySQL commands
[00:15]<fxyfyf>then do it :)
[00:17]<yvzn2rf>alright i've got 15 linux install CDs - only 3 distros, all suse - i've not touched suse since.... a year ago, shoul di keep them?
[00:18]<[v0za]>philip: alright, just making sure that it was a decent way to go about doing that. Not a stupid way.
[00:19]<wjlllrws>itrebal: I trashed mine :)
[00:21]<yvzn2rf>Wolfpaws: i just trashed mine :)
[00:21]<zzaxyvysv>itrebal note my nick I save mine
[00:21]<yvzn2rf>archivist: :)
[00:21]<wjlllrws>itrebal: \o/
[00:21]<yvzn2rf>alright, i've gotta boot to windows for a bit *yuck*
[00:21]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>philip: ifsetor is awesome!
[00:26]<yvzn2rf>heh, i realy dont want to do this :P
[00:27]<kvzjg>This is a multi-language question, but the heart of it is PHP even if the error might be in the javascript... http://pastecode.com/1322 I'm trying to get a javascript function result stored in a PHP variable... using a html form submit is fine
[00:28]<yvzn2rf>krisp: thats a javascript thing
[00:29]<mzrwrs>what the *ell is that about:s
[00:30]<txzzzzdjdzvzzzzz>Ktron: Why are you even using javascript?

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