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[11:38]<rrrw9>River: What are your permissions for /bin/bash ?
[11:38]<ggda>DaJudge: aah ok that is a 'ne2k-pci' last time I checked (a 10mbps ne2000 on PCI)
[11:38]<rm2>RedGhost: if you want to log out, then press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, if you want to turn X off entirely, then do the the above init.d command.
[11:38]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: yes, because that's how you'll be able to access it as a normal user.
[11:38]<pdznsvzvz>River: then use that password when you su postgres
[11:39]<ggda>DaJudge: iirc that uses the kernel module "ne2k-pci!
[11:39]<mrjumrn>enyc: hehe.. sure i guess.. its an old machine.. with a generic card in it..
[11:39]<ggda>DaJudge: iirc that uses the kernel module "ne2k-pci"
[11:39]<zyvnz>ajax4: no idea, sorry I only know enough to get myself in trouble on Linux. Tell me how to tell
[11:39]<grvxrga>whats a good lightweight login manager
[11:40]<mrjumrn>enyc: is there something that I need to configure or install to get it to work with installed dapper?
[11:40]<vxjznruluvya>nathan: xsm - but it's ugly as sin
[11:40]<pdznsvzvz>xdm?
[11:40]<vxjznruluvya>*xdm
[11:40]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>how do I switch from kdm to gdm?
[11:40]<rrrw9>River: Try this: su -i then type su postgres
[11:40]<zyvnz>fyrestrtr: nope, does not like it
[11:40]<rrrw9>River: no
[11:40]<mrvvaxnwyn>xdm is ugly as all get out *vomit*
[11:40]<mfy>TheMoebius-Windo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:40]<rm2>TheMoebius-Windo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:40]<rrrw9>River: sudo -i then su postgres
[11:40]<rm2>dli: lol
[11:40]<ggda>DaJudge: well...
[11:40]<rm2>River: sudo su - postgres
[11:40]<zpzu_dgvnz_pfd>fyrestrtr: still says permmision denied
[11:40]<ggda>DaJudge: if dapper is not Loading the module....
[11:40]<rm2>River: can do it on one line
[11:40]<vuw>hello. Somebody knows how to hybernate my dell x300?
[11:41]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>dli: I did that and I restarted the x-server but it goes to kdm still
[11:41]<ggda>DaJudge: just add the line "ne2k-pci" onto the end of /etc/modules
[11:41]<ggda>DaJudge: ("sudo nano /etc/modules")
[11:41]<vxjznruluvya>TheMoebius-Windo: then uninstall kdm
[11:41]<gjfw1>TheMoebius-Windo, is kde running now?
[11:41]<ggda>DaJudge: that will make it load the module... if thats not being automatically done for some reason
[11:41]<mfy>TheMoebius-Windo, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[11:41]<vxjznruluvya>TheMoebius-Windo: and edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:41]<gjfw1>TheMoebius-Windo, kdm
[11:41]<zyvnz>ajax4 , gdb, ok, I seem to be in, at least I now have prompt "postgres@neo-3000:/root$"
[11:41]<mrjumrn>enyc: hmm.. a bit lost as to what your saying.. im a bit of a linux noob =)
[11:42]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>nol13: no. I get this error message when I reconfigure gdm (from the failsafe session in kdm) - "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed."
[11:42]<rrrw9>River: Okay, now you are the postgres user so follow the instructions from the next line (createuser)
[11:43]<gjfw1>TheMoebius-Windo, good then it cant get too far away
[11:43]<vxjznruluvya>TheMoebius-Windo: you cn't have gdm and kdm running t the same time :)
[11:43]<ggda>DaJudge: drivers in linux kernel are usually built as 'modules'
[11:43]<ggda>DaJudge: these can be loaded/unloaded at runtime
[11:43]<zyvnz>ajax4, will do many thanks. fyrestrtr and gdb, also many thanks for your time
[11:43]<ggda>DaJudge: ubuntu dapper has a HAL Hardware Abstraction Layer whatsnot that usually loads the relevant driver for the network card etc.
[11:43]<rrrw9>River: your welcome
[11:43]<rm2>River: And you've set the root password in the database?
[11:43]<2ugvr>Morning folks :) Small question.. Errm, my keyboard settings is set on US.. how do I change it to the UK layout?
[11:44]<mrjumrn>enyc: i ran that command: sudo nano /etc/modules looking at the file i guess..
[11:44]<ggda>DaJudge: if this is not automatically happening (you can CHECK whad modules are loaded with 'lsmod') --
[11:44]<rm2>River: er, ignore that. lol you're using postgres, not mysql lol
[11:44]<2yfss_>ajax4: i have two usernames lex1 and admin i can los into admin and log into lex1 now because my small news server is being used by lex1 i want to change this to admin because lex1 will also run a mail server so i want to change to admin ilook at http://pastebin.ca/95751 to see how it is now
[11:44]<pdznsvzvz>bunta: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk
[11:44]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>dli: hmm ok so I stopped kdm and now its stuck at the kubuntu loading screen that I see when the computer is first starting up
[11:44]<ggda>DaJudge: you can tell ubuntu to load the module at boot-time manually by putting it on the end of the /etc/modules file
[11:44]<zyvnz>gdb: I believe so, as I need to use it when I log in via pgadmin3
[11:44]<rrrw9>bunta: system > preferences > keyboard
[11:44]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>mehh I guess I'll restart
[11:44]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: its still saying that? ls ~ what user and group is the ntfs directory?
[11:44]<ggda>DaJudge: that might not be the problem in the first-place of course!
[11:44]<rm2>River: ah good, then you have some users defined already
[11:45]<gjfw1>TheMoebius-Windo, NNNNOOOOOO!!!
[11:45]<2ugvr>ajax4, I've tried that method.. didnt work.. but fyrestrtr worked.. Thanks :)
[11:45]<rrrw9>fyrestrtr: showoff :P
[11:45]<ggda>DaJudge: well try putting 'ne2k-pci' on the end of that file ... press crtl+X ....
[11:45]<mrjumrn>enyc: so put ne2k-pci at the end of the file?
[11:45]<zyvnz>gdb: in pgadmin, only 'postgres' shows... I assume I will see the others when I finish with the next steps of createuser
[11:45]<ggda>DaJudge: no harm trying...
[11:45]<rm2>River: yes, that's right
[11:45]<zpzu_dgvnz_pfd>fyrestrtr: sorry, i didn't understand that question
[11:45]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: and do this sudo chmod -R u+rwx /home/yourusername/ntfs
[11:45]<ggda>DaJudge: it wont do anything disatarous
[11:45]<mrjumrn>enyc: do I need the quotes?
[11:45]<2ugvr>lol
[11:45]<txgmjg2yus-wygmj>nol13: do I loose?
[11:45]<ggda>DaJudge: no, you must not include quotes
[11:45]<2ugvr>Got a few more queries that I'll run thru you guys, just gonna clean up here ;)
[11:46]<mrjumrn>enyc: ok.. ill see if i can do that
[11:46]<rrrw9>bilss_: Heres the thing...it will run with whatever user has it in their crontab file. So you have to move it over to the admin crontab.
[11:46]<ggda>DaJudge: I just have this suspucion the ubuntu hal whatnot isnt seeing that card.... but it could be a different problem ;-)
[11:46]<gjfw1>TheMoebius-Windo, well you havent won
[11:46]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: ignore it, and run sudo chmod -R u+rwx /home/yourusername/ntfs/
[11:47]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: without the last /
[11:47]<mrjumrn>enyc: so how do I save the file? is it the writeout command?
[11:47]<2yfss_>ajax4: ok so change i crontab from lex1 to admin?
[11:47]<zpzu_dgvnz_pfd>fyrestrtr: oh...too late
[11:47]<ggda>DaJudge: well if you Ctrl+X ... it will ask you
[11:47]<zpzu_dgvnz_pfd>should i start over
[11:47]<pdznsvzvz>enyc: you can find out what ubuntu is seeing in the device manager
[11:47]<ggda>fyrestrtr: hrrm never looked into that wery much
[11:47]<pdznsvzvz>aqau_inter_fly: it shouldn't make a difference though, when its done, see if you can cd into ~/ntfs
[11:47]<rrrw9>bilss_: Yes, if its in lex1 crontab then that user will run it. If its in admin then admin will run it.
[11:47]<mrjumrn>enyc: ok I did that.
[11:48]<pdznsvzvz>enyc: or lspci -vv
[11:48]<2yfss_>ajax4: i have a cron.allow file which has news lex1 and root in it
[11:48]<ggda>fyrestrtr: how does the HAL infrastructure start, and what does the dev. mgr look into? -- how is this different on livecd?
[11:48]<pdznsvzvz>enyc: that I don't know.
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